Hornets and Nets restarts trade talks

[Jakob]

The trade involves Joe Johnson for Henderson Williams and Stephenson, Per Woj. I'm gonna have to give that a big thumbs down. We would be down another big man and Gary Neal would be out backup SG.

[Carolina Husker]

His many years does Johnson have on that ridiculous contract?

[cbarrier90]

His many years does Johnson have on that ridiculous contract?

 

Two.

[Omega Atrocity]

If we trade for Johnson our team is pretty much locked in for this year and next.

Al will most likely opt in at this point, Kemba's extension kicks in next season. So with Joe the 2015-16 Hornets will be pretty much the same.

[Whitaker 24]

Double post

[Whitaker 24]

2 years. I'm not a fan of the 3 for 1 myself.

[Jakob]

Replace Henderson with Neal and send us someone from the Nets Bench and I'd be happy.

[Omega Atrocity]

2 years. I'm not a fan of the 3 for 1 myself.

Any trade for Johnson will have to be multiple players. You have to match his $22 million salary. Lance is $9, Marvin is $7, Hendo is $6. That's $22 million

[HeatCheck]

This trade makes zero sense.

[Omega Atrocity]

Replace Henderson with Neal and send us someone from the Nets Bench and I'd be happy.

Impossible. Neal only makes $3 million. Salaries have to match.

[wolfpackpanther]

No point making this trade

[HeatCheck]

Impossible. Neal only makes $3 million. Salaries have to match.

 

I think it would.

 

As much as Neal has been god-awful recently, I wouldn't even do that trade (possible or not).

[cbarrier90]

The trade involves Joe Johnson for Henderson Williams and Stephenson, Per Woj. I'm gonna have to give that a big thumbs down. We would be down another big man and Gary Neal would be out backup SG.

 

Marvin is not a "big man." He's a 3 playing out of position.

 

I look at it this way: All three of those contracts were taking up roughly the same amount of cap as Joe's. Joe does what none of those three can do consistently: score. In order to survive the rest of the season with Roberts as the point guard and Biz starting at center, the wings HAVE to be upgraded to shoulder the scoring load, or else this team will continue to be painful to watch against bad teams and get blown out against good competition. Tanking at this point would be useless as it would only garner a top ten pick at best instead of top five.

 

At the end of the day, you're upgrading something that needs to be upgraded while keeping your young assets and picks and the players going out quite frankly weren't doing what they were brought in to do. Yeah, Johnson's contract sucks, but it's an expiring after this season and outside of Kemba no one on the roster is making double digit millions a year, so it can fit to serve its rental purpose.

 

It's a huge indictment on the offseason that was supposed to be, but kudos to Cho for realizing his mistake and trying to fix it. As Panther fans from 2008 to Hurney's eventual departure, we've seen what happens when GMs hope against hope for things to work themselves out.

 

I still feel like there's a trade for Al that will happen eventually, at which point we can begin building around the youth movement properly since the youth has kept us in the playoff hunt to this point.

 

FYI- this should open up some roster spots and CDR is available...

[Omega Atrocity]

So Johnson makes a little over $23 million. Trades have to be matched to within 15% I believe, unless Brooklyn has a trade exception I don't know about. We would have to give them back very close to $23 million. If they throw in another player we would have to throw in more salary. Theoretically we could get a 3rd team involved to absorb salary, but we'd have to give Philly some kind of asset (they are the only team with non negligible cap space)