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Gordon fails another drug test

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RJK Grand Master

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You also said you'd "give up potato chips if the League said I had to." Gordon has a long history of being a problem, at Baylor he kept getting in trouble, then transferred to Utah and got in trouble, goes to the NFL and gets in trouble. He's a bad apple, that's why he's getting treated so heavily-handed

Throughout my sheltered life living in white upper-middle class America, I know plenty of very very good people with great jobs that I respect and admire that smoke pot, drink, drink and drive, have a DUI, and their careers aren't ruined for it. Same with the good people in the NFL like that, I'd hope.

 

yup if you're a plumber and get popped for a dewey, guess what? you still get to plumb. and in most cases we're not talking about a top 5 plumber in the world at age 24. but for sure make it so he can't earn a living at what he's best at. i'm sure that's the best course of action. i mean its worked every time so far

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all this and he's still a stud football player. maybe stop worrying about 23 years old millionaires smoking pot and drinking as long as they stay outta jail and aren't hurting anyone? nah that would be common sense. can't have that. lets just ruin this kids career for something he does in his off time

Yep the owner of the Colts Irsay didn't get a one year ban. Hmmm I wonder if he also gets drug tests for alcohol after his DWI?
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How much playing time would a seventh rounder get? He would be just as useless as gordon. So yeah if he get him 2 years from now for a seventh that would be great.

So, have a guy who's yet to show that he can stay out of trouble for three months sit around and wait for a year?

Don't think so :unsure:

And if you wanna decry guys who go late in the draft, remind me: At what point in the draft were Andrew Norwell and Philly Brown taken? For that matter, how did we acquire Bene Benwikere?

Any GM who traded so much as a ham sandwich for a guy facing a year's suspension would be (rightly) laughed out of the league. And besides, we've already spent a season with a guy sitting on the roster doing nothing. I'm not up or season two.

The reality with Gordon is people who see the talent he has keep waiting for him to pull his head out of his ass so that talent can actually be of use to someone, and he keeps disappointing.

We're way past 'fool me twice, shame on me' at this point. Anyone still banking on him has been fooled about six times by now.

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While the NFL's handling of behavior is so freaking weird/inconsistent/alien, the fact is Gordon has a history of making horrific choices.

 

I guess an analogy might be something you have so many points, and repeated small infractions (substance abuse) use up a lot more of those chips than a first time offense.  Then again, there are guys who have been convicted of terrible crimes who are still playing in the NFL...

 

I don't get it.  I wouldn't want Josh Gordan for anything.  He know's the league rules.  His agent knows the rules, yet he still finds get off the field..  C'mon Man!

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Yep the owner of the Colts Irsay didn't get a one year ban. Hmmm I wonder if he also gets drug tests for alcohol after his DWI?

What's interesting is that while the players are subject to drug tests, owners are not.

USA Today: Miami Dolphins owner Stephen Ross scoffs at the suggestion of testing owners and other non-players. "We're not living in a police state," Ross said. "I don't think it's necessary."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/columnist/bell/2014/03/24/bell-time-to-test-the-owners-as-well/6848789/

As for Irsay, he's a billionaire that has owned the Colts since he was age 37, he's been owner for the last two decades. He has had a substance abuse problem for a while:

Indianapolis Star

"He's a sick, sick man," one source told me. "He desperately needs help."

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For years, Colts insiders have known that Irsay was struggling again with drugs. For years, they fought to get him into rehab. At the very least, they fought to get him a driver in the hopes of keeping him from getting behind the wheel. The Colts have been cleaning up Irsay's messes for years now.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/kravitz/2014/03/17/kravitz-irsay-fighting-for-his-life-needs-help/6523925/

And he didn't just get a DUI, he also got four FELONY drug possession charges for having multiple Schedule IV prescription drugs without a prescription (Xanax, Soma, Valium, etc)

Also, Detroit Lions president from 2008-now who runs the team for the Ford family, Tom Lewand (who graduated law school), got a DUI with a .21 blood alcohol level. The Lions continued to employ him, although the NFL suspended him for 30 days -- a ban that was eventually lifted early -- and fined him $100,000.

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There was another player who recently got busted for having a few beers on vacation. Yep...once you are on the list, testing positive for a beer means another strike.

 

Which is asinine because you can't legislate morality. Lots of people in this world are gonna have a beer or possibly 12 even if it means losing your job. It's just human nature. Suspending the guy for another 12 months accomplishes nothing.

 

Matt Prater, K for the Broncos.  First 4 games of 14.

 

 

This is nothing new, Gordon just happens to be a highlight reel so people are interested.

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fomer NFL commentator Rush Limbaugh, who resigned after saying Donovan McNabb was overrated because he's black, admitted he had a drug problem in 2003, then in 2006, he was arrested for drugs. From 2001-2008, Limbaugh made $31 million a year for his radio show ($33 million in 2007). In 2008, Limbaugh signed a contract extension through 2016 that is worth over $400 million, breaking records for any broadcast.

A November 2008 poll by Zogby International found that Rush Limbaugh was the most trusted news personality in the nation

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What's interesting is that while the players are subject to drug tests, owners are not.

USA Today: Miami Dolphins owner Stephen Ross scoffs at the suggestion of testing owners and other non-players. "We're not living in a police state," Ross said. "I don't think it's necessary."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/columnist/bell/2014/03/24/bell-time-to-test-the-owners-as-well/6848789/

As for Irsay, he's a billionaire that has owned the Colts since he was age 37, he's been owner for the last two decades. He has had a substance abuse problem for a while:

Indianapolis Star

"He's a sick, sick man," one source told me. "He desperately needs help."

...

For years, Colts insiders have known that Irsay was struggling again with drugs. For years, they fought to get him into rehab. At the very least, they fought to get him a driver in the hopes of keeping him from getting behind the wheel. The Colts have been cleaning up Irsay's messes for years now.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/kravitz/2014/03/17/kravitz-irsay-fighting-for-his-life-needs-help/6523925/

And he didn't just get a DUI, he also got four FELONY drug possession charges for having multiple Schedule IV prescription drugs without a prescription (Xanax, Soma, Valium, etc)

Also, Detroit Lions president from 2008-now who runs the team for the Ford family, Tom Lewand (who graduated law school), got a DUI with a .21 blood alcohol level. The Lions continued to employ him, although the NFL suspended him for 30 days -- a ban that was eventually lifted early -- and fined him $100,000.

Good stuff. I guess it goes to show that the rules only apply to some. Isn't this the way the world runs anyways? There is no common sense and fairness anymore when it comes to rules and laws. You see the laws that legislators create don't seem to apply to them. Why would the NFL be any different? Justice in America is a mirage IMHO.
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Good stuff. I guess it goes to show that the rules only apply to some. Isn't this the way the world runs anyways? There is no common sense and fairness anymore when it comes to rules and laws. You see the laws that legislators create don't seem to apply to them. Why would the NFL be any different? Justice in America is a mirage IMHO.

None of which actually matters.

The rules may be fair or unfair, but if you want to keep your million dollar job playing a kid's game, you'd better follow them to the letter.

If you don't, then the consequences you suffer are nobody's fault but your own.

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