Hurney on Pats: Culture of Cheating

[†William Moore†]

I mean, the Panthers just didn't take steroids. They took life-threatening amounts that could have horribly effected their future. Far more harmful, if to no-one but themselves, than a taped practice. 

[†William Moore†]

1. Don't quote whole articles.

 

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http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/story.asp?i=20141228222153191984208&ref=rec&tm=1&src=NFL

Lol, I don't give a poo. Don't be butthurt about facts now. 

[Kuhndog94]

Lol, I don't give a poo. Don't be butthurt about facts now. 

 

Who's mad? 

[Panthers8969]

They weren't found to be filming practices. That report was retracted.

Retracted by who? The NFL? Yeah that means a lot. Especially with them deleting the evidence

[Pondmanmark]

I'm sooooooooooo tired talking about Deflated Balls............

 

When are we going to discuss the size of his "nuts" ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[rodeo]

Retracted by who? The NFL? Yeah that means a lot. Especially with them deleting the evidence

 

The NFL never accused them of filming practices at all.

 

Here is spygate in a nutshell:

 

In 2007, a rule was passed that teams could no longer film opposing teams' signals from the sidelines. They could record the from the stands, and they could write them down, but they couldn't video tape from the sidelines anymore. During the 2007 season, several teams continued to do it, until the NFL sent out a memo telling teams to stop. The Patriots didn't stop, and Mangini found out and turned them in (Mangini got caught doing the same thing in the playoffs in 2006 and was a big reason for the rule change).

 

That's just about the whole of what actually happened. The media took over from there. The same media who preaches what a piece of poo Cam is, and sensationalizes everything under the sun.

 

Everything after that, all the stuff about filming practices, all the rumors and gossip, is just that. Rumors and gossip, all unsubstantiated.

 

The person who accused them of filming practice was a reporter for the Boston Herald, a year later, who said they filmed a Rams walkthrough. The NFL investigated, hired private investigators, and found the accusation to have been impossible because the supposed cameras found had no batteries or power supplies and no filming had taken place. The reporter retracted the story.

[MHS831]

Which the Patriots were not found to have done.

 

I suppose you could say that and feel good about it, but you are aware  that Goodell destroyed the evidence after spygate?  Many feel that he found much more than what was reported and did not want the integrity of the game to take such a beating.  Marty Hurney thinks they did tape practices, and he had people tell him they did.  He was closer to this than either one of us.  Who polices the NFL?  Nobody.  It is an honor system, where rule violators must be reported.  You know the politics behind coming forward, right?

 

To say they did not is inaccurate.  To say that they were never exposed is more like it.  Just my 2cents.

[MHS831]

The NFL never accused them of filming practices at all.

 

Here is spygate in a nutshell:

 

In 2007, a rule was passed that teams could no longer film opposing teams' signals from the sidelines. They could record the from the stands, and they could write them down, but they couldn't video tape from the sidelines anymore. During the 2007 season, several teams continued to do it, until the NFL sent out a memo telling teams to stop. The Patriots didn't stop, and Mangini found out and turned them in (Mangini got caught doing the same thing in the playoffs in 2006 and was a big reason for the rule change).

 

That's just about the whole of what actually happened. The media took over from there. The same media who preaches what a piece of poo Cam is, and sensationalizes everything under the sun.

 

Everything after that, all the stuff about filming practices, all the rumors and gossip, is just that. Rumors and gossip, all unsubstantiated.

 

The person who accused them of filming practice was a reporter for the Boston Herald, a year later, who said they filmed a Rams walkthrough. The NFL investigated, hired private investigators, and found the accusation to have been impossible because the supposed cameras found had no batteries or power supplies and no filming had taken place. The reporter retracted the story.

Was it more important for Goodell to punish the Patriots or to preserve the integrity of the shield?  This is the tip of the iceberg.  Sure the media speculated--the commissioner destroyed the evidence from the investigation.  Why would he do that?  Yes, this is a conspiracy theory and that is interesting to me, but there comes a point where a pattern develops.  "Culture" was the right word.

 

So are they innocent when they are not being policed and they have been caught a few times and accused a few more?  When the only system of accountability is in the hands of one man with an agenda whose decision represents the best wishes of 32 rich men and not the moral majority? 

 

I see your argument Rodeo, and I am thankful for it because it gives me a chance to counter.  I don't really know if there are UFOs, who really shot JFK, or to what extent the Patriots cheat.  But I know they cheat and that is clear to everyone except the Patriots.

[Byrdman4real]

I suppose you could say that and feel good about it, but you are aware that Goodell destroyed the evidence after spygate? Many feel that he found much more than what was reported and did not want the integrity of the game to take such a beating. Marty Hurney thinks they did tape practices, and he had people tell him they did. He was closer to this than either one of us. Who polices the NFL? Nobody. It is an honor system, where rule violators must be reported. You know the politics behind coming forward, right?

To say they did not is inaccurate. To say that they were never exposed is more like it. Just my 2cents.

You damn right he destroyed the evidence, can you imagine how much the image of the NFL would have suffered from a team cheating and winning super bowls from it. The situation was probably deeper then anyone know.

[lola]

FWIW, Will Witherspoon was on 610 this morning and said that they had installed new calls during Super Bowl week but the Patriots somehow knew them.

I hate them with the fire of a thousand suns.

[rodeo]

Was it more important for Goodell to punish the Patriots or to preserve the integrity of the shield?  This is the tip of the iceberg.  Sure the media speculated--the commissioner destroyed the evidence from the investigation.  Why would he do that?  Yes, this is a conspiracy theory and that is interesting to me, but there comes a point where a pattern develops.  "Culture" was the right word.

 

So are they innocent when they are not being policed and they have been caught a few times and accused a few more?  When the only system of accountability is in the hands of one man with an agenda whose decision represents the best wishes of 32 rich men and not the moral majority? 

 

I see your argument Rodeo, and I am thankful for it because it gives me a chance to counter.  I don't really know if there are UFOs, who really shot JFK, or to what extent the Patriots cheat.  But I know they cheat and that is clear to everyone except the Patriots.

 

That's why I've said there's no combating people's feelings or innuendos. Some people just want to see it that way.

 

It was stupid to destroy the tapes, that move only fuels the rumors. Goodell is not a good decision maker.

 

[cgarsmoker]

The NFL never accused them of filming practices at all.

Here is spygate in a nutshell:

In 2007, a rule was passed that teams could no longer film opposing teams' signals from the sidelines. They could record the from the stands, and they could write them down, but they couldn't video tape from the sidelines anymore. During the 2007 season, several teams continued to do it, until the NFL sent out a memo telling teams to stop. The Patriots didn't stop, and Mangini found out and turned them in (Mangini got caught doing the same thing in the playoffs in 2006 and was a big reason for the rule change).

That's just about the whole of what actually happened. The media took over from there. The same media who preaches what a piece of poo Cam is, and sensationalizes everything under the sun.

Everything after that, all the stuff about filming practices, all the rumors and gossip, is just that. Rumors and gossip, all unsubstantiated.

The person who accused them of filming practice was a reporter for the Boston Herald, a year later, who said they filmed a Rams walkthrough. The NFL investigated, hired private investigators, and found the accusation to have been impossible because the supposed cameras found had no batteries or power supplies and no filming had taken place. The reporter retracted the story.

McDaniels got pinched filming walk through practices when he first became head coach of the Broncos. Maybe he picked that up from his time with the Pats or maybe he came up with it all own his own, people will have to draw their own conclusions. He is the OC for the Pats now and his lack of Integrity in the past doesn't bode well for a team wanting the public to believe the "we don't know what happened to deflate those footballs" story.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/22/what-did-josh-mcdaniels-know/

[Semaj]

How any "Panthers fan" isn't fuging livid still, about those cheating bastards and our Super Bowl, is beyond me.

We will be back sooner rather than later. Next time we will win. I hope it's against the Pats.

[KillerKat]

The NFL never accused them of filming practices at all.

 

Here is spygate in a nutshell:

 

In 2007, a rule was passed that teams could no longer film opposing teams' signals from the sidelines. They could record the from the stands, and they could write them down, but they couldn't video tape from the sidelines anymore. During the 2007 season, several teams continued to do it, until the NFL sent out a memo telling teams to stop. The Patriots didn't stop, and Mangini found out and turned them in (Mangini got caught doing the same thing in the playoffs in 2006 and was a big reason for the rule change).

 

That's just about the whole of what actually happened. The media took over from there. The same media who preaches what a piece of poo Cam is, and sensationalizes everything under the sun.

 

Everything after that, all the stuff about filming practices, all the rumors and gossip, is just that. Rumors and gossip, all unsubstantiated.

 

The person who accused them of filming practice was a reporter for the Boston Herald, a year later, who said they filmed a Rams walkthrough. The NFL investigated, hired private investigators, and found the accusation to have been impossible because the supposed cameras found had no batteries or power supplies and no filming had taken place. The reporter retracted the story.

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