Panthers Senior Bowl / Shrine Player Meetings

[gettlemanjack]

*Jordan Taylor, WR, Rice (EW)

WR Jordan Taylor is 6-5/210 with a fantastic catch radius and great body control for his size. Draft Insider Tony Pauline has him going 5th-6th Round but says a good forty time could push him into the middle rounds. Here are two highlight-reel catches he made vs Texas A&M at the beginning of the 2013 season:

[gettlemanjack]

CBS Sports:

"WR Jamison Crowder, Duke (5-8, 174)

It can be tough for a 5-8, 174-pound wide receiver to stand tall in this type of all-star setting, but that’s exactly what Crowder did this week, showing the best combination of explosion and polish at the position. He has a tiny catching radius and small hands (8 3/8 inches), but caught everything thrown his way during drills, showing the ballskills and separation skills that will appeal to teams in search of an impact slot target"

http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24986379/senior-bowl-10-prospects-who-helped-themselves

[gettlemanjack]

*John Miller, G, Louisville (EW)

looks like this guy tore it up. He was a 4-year starter at LG for Louisville

CollegeFootball 24/7 @ NFL_CFB

Mayock: WR Tre McBride, Louisville OLs John Miller and

Jamon Brown and DT Leterrius Walton made themselves

money this week at #ShrineGame

TheFootballGirl.com Melissa Jacobs @thefootballgirl

Excited to chat with OG John Miller ( Louisville) in a few

minutes. By all accounts, he killed it at East-West Shrine

week.

Baltimore Times TURRON DAVENPORT @TDavenport_PPI

-John Miller OG Louisville stood out last week at Shrine game. He's a 3rd rnd prospect. Could be on 49ers radar.

-John Miller from Louisville is completely washing away whoever is in front on him at Shrine Game.

NFL.com Daniel Jeremiah @MoveTheSticks

Louisville OG John Miller is moving people at the line of

scrimmage.

Samuel Cohen @ SamuelScouting

John Miller OG Louisville looked good all week in practice

and is over powering Defensive Lineman all game. Trending

Up!

Flapjacks Mahmoud @ mrjohnson_859

John Miller in the 3rd to the Raiders makes too much sense

Frank Costa @Frankie_Co713

John Miller OG from Louisville, looked good.He is projected

as a 3rd rounder. Big size, powerful punch. Draft stock could

rise

National Football Post Max Luckan @ MaxLuckan

Louisville guard John Miller could be a good fit for the #Bucs

in the third or fourth round.

Benny Baccalieri @ bennywhodat16

-I really like John Miller Guard outta Louisville!! 3rd to 4th rounder! SAVAGE!

-John Miller Guard outta Louisville has my attention!!!

Doug Zimmerman @ dzimmerific1

A guy I absolutely love is guard John Miller from Louisville.

[gettlemanjack]

*Wes Saxton, TE, South Alabama (EW)

all the experts are saying the same thing about this guy: he is raw/unskilled in both catching and blocking, but he is such a great athlete and athletic prototype that he's doing to go in the late rounds anyway

[gettlemanjack]

[Jackofalltrades]

Gettlemanjack, I appreciate the time you out in to provide all this additional info.

Thanks.

[gettlemanjack]

*Ty Sambrailo, OT, Colorado State (SR)

..

OT Ty Sambrailo is ... is all over the place in the mocks. .. Will require some time in the weight room before he can play at the next level.

I've read that Sambrailo is having a tough Sr. Bowl, and he got abused by Nate Orchard in his last game at the Las Vegas Bowl.

Yep. He generated a bunch of negative buzz at the Senior Bowl. And in the Las Vegas bowl, Nate Orchard made him look like Byron Bell (and Nate Orchard at 6-3/251 is small/lightweigh DE, the type Sambrailo is supposed to match-up best against). NFL.com wrote that Orchard "got the better of the matchup and won on all cards in a unanimous decision."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000446242/article/travis-wilson-utah-defense-lead-las-vegas-bowl-rout

this is what they thought about him at the Senior Bowl:

Senior NFLDraft Analyst, draftbreakdown.com Luke Easterling @ LukeEasterling

Ty Sambrailo really underwhelming so far this week. Reach-blocking too much, poor balance. #SeniorBowl

...

his week was fairly nondescript and disappointing. He didn't play with good balance, ending up on the ground a few times

https://m.yahoo.com/w/legobpengine/sports/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/nfl-draft-watch--senior-bowl-players-who-helped--hurt-themselves-194300834.html?orig_host_hdr=sports.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-US&_device=tablet

FootballSavages.com Pete Smith @ PeteSmithFS

Ty Sambrailo had a tough start to the week and he needs

more strength in his legs.

Optimum Scouting Alex Brown @ OS_AlexBrown

During combo block drills, Trey Flowers and Markus Golden

handled Ty Sambrailo . Lacks functional power

CBS Sports Dane Brugler @ dpbrugler

There are a lot of things to like about Ty Sambrailo but his

NFL future comes down to two words: functional strength.

It's lacking right now

...

he might need a full year in a NFL weight and conditioning program until he has the requisite functional strength needed to hold up on the edges.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24980468/senior-bowl-auburns-sammie-coates-steals-show-at-south-weigh-in

Dan Kadar of Mocking the Draft:

"Sambrailo's play clearly shows he's a player who has to add strength and may need to sit a year to do so in an NFL strength program. If he does get stronger, Sambrailo is a good left tackle candidate because of his flexibility and foot quickness. But defensive players often drove him backward and shed him during practices."

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/23/7877005/senior-bowl-stock-report-nfl-draft

NFL.com:

"Mayock said he thought Sambrailo looked "very awkward" at guard during drills this week. "He's a good athlete with a nasty edge ... but he's not powerful at all," Mayock said."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000462206/article/stephone-anthony-making-name-for-himself-at-senior-bowl

Colorado State Rams blog on Sambrailo:

"He's one of the best lineman to ever wear the CSU uniform...The Senior Bowl and the practices for the game were a good opportunity for Sambrailo to show he could hang tough against elite competition, but so far it hasn't gone particularly well for him. ... there most certainly..red flags surrounding Sambrailo...

(POOR STRENGTH/SHORT ARMS)

First and foremost is the matter of functional strength. ... He also has relatively short arms, which isn't necessarily a problem in itself, but when combined with a lack of strength, it can create a weakness that's easily exploited ... he'll likely have to..grow muscle..just..to earn a starting spot in the league. ... Sambrailo could really use a year on the sidelines to bulk up

(POOR BALANCE)

Another issue Sambrailo has to correct is..his center of balance... When you're already not exactly the strongest lineman on the field (like Sambrailo), you simply can't afford to give away even more leverage because..you aren't balanced. ... Sambrailo could really use a year on the sidelines to..adjust to the NFL game. (also note that the taller you are, the higher your center of gravity is, and Sambrailo is 6-5)

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It seems highly likely that opinions on Sambrailo will vary pretty wildly from team to team. Players like Sambrailo are coveted in a more finesse-oriented, zone blocking offensive scheme, but a power running team is probably not going to be interested. Where ever he ends up, Sambrailo could really use a year on the sidelines...While his intelligence and his athleticism could probably keep him from getting completely overwhelmed, Sambrailo would likely struggle if he was forced to play as a rookie."

http://wrtym.blogspot.in/2015/01/senior-bowl-update-hows-ty-sambrailo.html?m=1#!/2015/01/senior-bowl-update-hows-ty-sambrailo.html

[gettlemanjack]

I've seen a mock suggesting that Ty Montgomery would be someone we would draft for kick returns also.

haven't found anything on how he looked as a returner, but Montgomery looked awful as a WR at the Senior Bowl:

NFL Draft Scout Matt Miller @ nfldraftscout

Ty Montgomery has consistently struggled to catch the ball here.

...

Drops, drops and more drops filled up my scouting notes on Ty Montgomery this week. He's not a refined or confident pass-catcher and fell out of too many routes. I even questioned his effort on passes over the middle during seven-on-seven drills and in team scrimmage sessions.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2337836-senior-bowl-2015-matt-millers-scouting-notebook

NEPatriotsDraft.com Mike Loyko @NEPD_Loyko

-Ty Montgomery with yet another drop. He is really really struggling.

-Texas CB Quandre Diggs erasing Ty Montgomery

NFL.com Daniel Jeremiah @MoveTheSticks

Stanford WR Ty Montgomery is a powerful runner with great top speed but he struggled to track and catch the ball

Draft Analyst Tony Pauline @TonyPauline

Ty Montgomery/Stanford dropping more passes than he's

caught.

Optimum Scouting Alex Brown @ OS_AlexBrown

Ty Montgomery really struggled to win in press drills.

CBS Sports Dane Brugler @ dpbrugler

WR Ty Montgomery just isn't natural playing the position and it shows

NBC Sports Josh Norris @ JoshNorris

Ty Montgomery dropping passes against air.

Packers writer Nick Schwalbach @ Draft_Packers

Ty Montgomery struggling in WR drills?!?! Shocker.

Yahoo Sports

"Stanford WR-KR Ty Montgomery — Listed at 6-2 in college, Montgomery measured in at under 6 feet and appeared to have the body of a running back, not a receiver. He has special teams value, but he struggled with consistency catching the football this week and might be more of a No. 4 or 5 wideout and return specialist."

https://m.yahoo.com/w/legobpengine/sports/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/nfl-draft-watch--senior-bowl-players-who-helped--hurt-themselves-194300834.html?orig_host_hdr=sports.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-US&_device=tablet

[TheSpecial1]

haven't found anything on how he looked as a returner, but Montgomery looked awful as a WR at the Senior Bowl:

NFL Draft Scout Matt Miller @ nfldraftscout

Ty Montgomery has consistently struggled to catch the ball here.

...

Drops, drops and more drops filled up my scouting notes on Ty Montgomery this week. He's not a refined or confident pass-catcher and fell out of too many routes. I even questioned his effort on passes over the middle during seven-on-seven drills and in team scrimmage sessions.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2337836-senior-bowl-2015-matt-millers-scouting-notebook

NEPatriotsDraft.com Mike Loyko @NEPD_Loyko

-Ty Montgomery with yet another drop. He is really really struggling.

-Texas CB Quandre Diggs erasing Ty Montgomery

NFL.com Daniel Jeremiah @MoveTheSticks

Stanford WR Ty Montgomery is a powerful runner with great top speed but he struggled to track and catch the ball

Draft Analyst Tony Pauline @TonyPauline

Ty Montgomery/Stanford dropping more passes than he's

caught.

Optimum Scouting Alex Brown @ OS_AlexBrown

Ty Montgomery really struggled to win in press drills.

CBS Sports Dane Brugler @ dpbrugler

WR Ty Montgomery just isn't natural playing the position and it shows

NBC Sports Josh Norris @ JoshNorris

Ty Montgomery dropping passes against air.

Packers writer Nick Schwalbach @ Draft_Packers

Ty Montgomery struggling in WR drills?!?! Shocker.

Yahoo Sports

"Stanford WR-KR Ty Montgomery — Listed at 6-2 in college, Montgomery measured in at under 6 feet and appeared to have the body of a running back, not a receiver. He has special teams value, but he struggled with consistency catching the football this week and might be more of a No. 4 or 5 wideout and return specialist."

https://m.yahoo.com/w/legobpengine/sports/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/nfl-draft-watch--senior-bowl-players-who-helped--hurt-themselves-194300834.html?orig_host_hdr=sports.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-US&_device=tablet

 

He's fallen out of the 1st round with his terrible performance. Unless, he has a great game today.

[ctrcat]

La'el Collins come on down.  Sold.  Not that I needed to see this game to be sold, but I'm sold on the first drive alone. 

[gettlemanjack]

muffed punt by Jamison Crowder in the Senior Bowl game

Joe Everett @ JoeWEverett 4m

A lot of #NFL people at the #NationalScouting weigh-in

scoffed at WR Jamsion Crowder's hand size [8 3/8] but its

certainly become an issue.

Luc Polglaze @ LucPolglaze 8m

Jamison Crowder just did himself serious stock damage.

[gettlemanjack]

one of the guys we met with:

BillsDraft.com Dan Hope @Dan_Hope 5m

Oregon State CB Steven Nelson having a really good game so

far. Has been all over Auburn WR Sammie Coates in

coverage.

[gettlemanjack]

one of the guys we met with:

BillsDraft.com Dan Hope @Dan_Hope 5m

Oregon State CB Steven Nelson having a really good game so

far. Has been all over Auburn WR Sammie Coates in

coverage.

He's getting a lot of love:

Realist @ RealistCLE 56s

Oregon State corner Nelson and northern Iowa RB Johnson

are two most impressive players in senior bowl thus far

TheMantheMytheLegend @ Steel_Legends 2m

Stevie Nelson, the CB, making plays all day. Another gem at

#SeniorBowl

Brandon Barber @ BrandonBarber59 50s

That cornerback from Oregon state looks good. Ike Taylors

replacement maybe?

PhillyDraft @ Randyljobst 1m

Steven Nelson is the best defensive player so far.

Charles Davis @ CFD22

Oregon State CB Steven Nelson is off to a terrific start. 3

PBU's so far..

Rob Rang @RobRang

Steven Nelson having good game thus far

Jah Taylor #ND #Rams @ IAmJahTaylor

Like this Steven Nelson kid out of Oregon State

Bryant Monday @ BryantMonday

Steven Nelson is a baller

CTay @ ChanceTaylor4

Steven Nelson from Oregon State is nice

[MHS831]

I personally like the Sambrailo interest.  Yes, he was getting bull-rushed in the 1 on 1 drills and looked bad.  He got a holding and a false start during the game.  I think he is pressing because he got some negative press, feeling that he worked all week to see his stock drop a round or two.  He is not a bull dozing, 330 lb OT.  He is finesse, and what we gain by not giving up the undercuts or getting beat outside, we sacrifice a little with the bull rush---in year 1. A year on the weights could cure that.  You cant teach feet in the weight room. 

In another matter:

I want Varga, the FB/RB from Yale.  Want him bad.  A younger, inexpensive, faster Tolbert.  A special team wizard.