OT Will Beaty possible June 1 cuts for Giants

[Carolina Cajun]

He would be a good idea.  He's not the long term answer at LT, but he is a guy who can come in, start for 2 years while we groom someone to take over that position.  This really would allow us to go BPA during the draft as long as we got someone that we thought could eventually take over the LT position.  The difference is we have the available income to afford his pay grade this year, and I can see him being a target.

[EMSMedic79]

Pass

[DangerClose]

see 2014 PFF regular season OT grades   

 

You may not be a believer, but at the very least this tracks every single snap and matches up well with how this board grades our team.

rank name overall grade

1  Jason Peters 38.2

2  Andrew Whitworth 36.8

3  Joe Thomas 33.5

4  Joe Staley 22.2

5  Kelvin Beachum 21.7

6  Tyron Smith 21.6

7  Donald Penn 19.3

8  Branden Albert 17.5

9  Jared Veldheer 16.5

10  Duane Brown 16.1

11  Sebastian Vollmer 15.5

12  Anthony Castonzo 15.2

13  Lane Johnson 14.3

14  William Beatty 13

15  Ricky Wagner 12.5

16  Bryan Bulaga 11.9

17  Zach Strief 10.9

18  Trent Williams 10.5

19  Derek Newton 8.9

20  Jermey Parnell 8.7

21  Doug Free 8.5

22  Ryan Schraeder 7.1

23  Marcus Gilbert 6.8

23  King Dunlap 6.8

23  Riley Reiff 6.8

26  Cordy Glenn 6.5

27  Terron Armstead 6

28  Demar Dotson 5.8

29  Michael Roos 4.6

30  Taylor Lewan 2.2

31  LaAdrian Waddle 1.9

31  Mike Remmers 1.9

33  Mitchell Schwartz 0.5

34  Phil Loadholt 0.3

35  D'Brickashaw Ferguson 0

36  Jake Long -1.5

36  Russell Okung -1.5

38  Ryan Harris -1.6

39  Anthony Davis -2.1

40  Justin Pugh -2.6

41  Ryan Clady -2.8

42  Bobby Massie -4

43  Louis Vasquez -4.2

44  Nate Solder -4.9

45  Paul Cornick -5

46  Michael Ola -5.3

47  Andre Smith Jr. -5.4

48  Joe Barksdale -5.9

49  Michael Harris -6.1

50  Cornelius Lucas -6.4

51  Breno Giacomini -6.5

52  Chris Clark -6.7

53  David Bakhtiari -7.1

54  Khalif Barnes -7.2

55  Austin Pasztor -7.8

56  Sam Young -8.8

56  D.J. Fluker -8.8

58  Jermon Bushrod -9

59  Gabe Carimi -10.1

60  Jonathan Martin -10.9

61  Marshall Newhouse -11.6

62  Tyler Polumbus -12.6

63  Anthony Collins -12.9

63  Eugene Monroe -12.9

65  Mike Adams -14.5

66  Jordan Mills -15.7

67  Luke Joeckel -15.8

68  Nate Chandler -16.1

68  Tom Compton -16.1

70  Gosder Cherilus -16.8

71  Menelik Watson -17.2

72  Eric Fisher -17.5

72  Bryce Harris -17.5

74  Justin Britt -18.5

75  Michael Oher -20.2

75  Dallas Thomas -20.2

77  Oniel Cousins -21

78  Greg Robinson -24.1

79  James Hurst -24.9

80  Ja'Wuan James -28.4

81  Matt Kalil -29.1

82  Seantrel Henderson -29.9

83  Byron Bell -33.4

84  Jake Matthews -36.8

My God man. Nate fuggin Chandler scored higher than Bell. 

[top dawg]

Man the Saints got lucky with Armstead... Hardy fuged him up in his first start but other than that he's been lightyears ahead of any of our tackles. 3rd rounder I think.

 

I don't think they got lucky, per se. Armstead was thought to have high upside, just a little raw.  Now if you are saying that they were lucky to draft him when they did and lucky that that upside is realizing itself, that's true.

[Man Strength]

My God man. Nate fuggin Chandler scored higher than Bell. 

 

 

yah but chandler played 703 snaps to Bell's 1033.  additionally bell was at LT.  they are both terrible.  

[L-TownCat]

Q: What's the reward for being 83rd best at your job when there are only 64 possible job openings?

A: Unemployment checks.

[Ricky Spanish]

If he is cut he should be on our short list of tackles to look at this offseason. No idea why people are turning their noses up at him when we had Byron Bell at LT all year. At this point, anyone available might just be a better option than Bell. 

 

He is not the long term answer. No reason to think he should be. He could be the stopgap between him and a rookie with potential that we groom to take over the position. 

 

 

[MV%doe]

Him, long, and oher are the ones I'm hoping for. The current list is terrible, bulaga and king are going to get huge deals. Like I said before, I'm much more interested in the cuts than the current FAs in all groups of need/want.

[MedellinHeel]

Bell is just god awful. 

[section543]

Noticed a lot of OTs I wanted drafted early are closer to the bottom of that list. Maybe Gman knew that too. We really need T help but it just may not be available or ready by next season.

[KendrickPanther]

i was just using that as a reference, as i doubt anyone here has watched every snap of every player.  I actually think their OL  grades are usually decent.  again, they dont have to be exact, but offers a reference point.  

 

I think people often misunderstand the goals here.  We need a relative improvement at LT and likley RT.  Having Gross for so long distorted views on whats feasible.  Its really really hard to get a good LT.  Its hard to even get a decent LT.  

 

Im not saying throw the kitchen sink at Beatty, but he is 100% better than any OT on our roster right now.  

 

everyone wants to drraft LT in 1st and 4th round.  but everyone said the same thing last year, and we woudl have been screwed if Gettleman did that.  1) we would not have gotten Benjamin, 2) we would have gotten a shitty OT

 

The reference point is woefully inaccurate. Guys that embarrassed themselves in 30 snaps and never saw the field again are ranked above several starters. Guys that picked up hang nails and sat for 8 games are ranked above guys that played through injuries. 

[KendrickPanther]

As far as the compensatory picks, We won't be getting any in 2016. Who are we going to lose? Byron Bell? Ed Dickson? Greg Hardy is the wild card there. But I have no doubt we will bring in more free agent money than we let out.

[CatMan72]

King Dunlap

[Pejorative Miscreant]

Man the Saints got lucky with Armstead... Hardy fuged him up in his first start but other than that he's been lightyears ahead of any of our tackles. 3rd rounder I think.

 

Actually, to be fair, there were several threads on here in the draft forum discussing Armstead as being a small school stud.  He had some high praise and a lot were sorry we missed him.