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OT Will Beaty possible June 1 cuts for Giants


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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24976324/nfl-mock-draft-titans-pass-on-a-quarterback-at-no-2-overall

 

Dane Brugler mock draft with this nugget "The Giants have invested high draft picks on the offensive line in recent years and could go in that direction again if New York plans to make Will Beatty a June 1st cut."

 

 

I dont know much about the Giants cap situation, but Beatty is a solid LT.  He graded out positively by PFF, above guys like Brian Bulaga.  He fits the mold of the size we like and is 29, so should have a few solid years left

 

Presumably Gettleman is familiar with him.  Additionally, as a would be cut, he wouldnt count against our compensatory pick score.  

 

In a light year for OTs in FA and the a low draft position, the more LTs available the better.  

 

Anyone here knowledgeable about his chances of being cut?

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FWIW he has graded positively by PFF 3 out of the last 4 years. This year, pretty much everyone else  on the Giants o-line was terrible, but he was ok and as good as any other FA options.  

 

no matter if we sign FA OT, we still should draft one anyways.  But signing someone who we know isnt terrible is a good start.  Look at the PFF grades for all 1st round OT taken the past two years.  Its not pretty.....some of the worst grades in the league

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see 2014 PFF regular season OT grades   

 

You may not be a believer, but at the very least this tracks every single snap and matches up well with how this board grades our team.

rank name overall grade

1  Jason Peters 38.2

2  Andrew Whitworth 36.8

3  Joe Thomas 33.5

4  Joe Staley 22.2

5  Kelvin Beachum 21.7

6  Tyron Smith 21.6

7  Donald Penn 19.3

8  Branden Albert 17.5

9  Jared Veldheer 16.5

10  Duane Brown 16.1

11  Sebastian Vollmer 15.5

12  Anthony Castonzo 15.2

13  Lane Johnson 14.3

14  William Beatty 13

15  Ricky Wagner 12.5

16  Bryan Bulaga 11.9

17  Zach Strief 10.9

18  Trent Williams 10.5

19  Derek Newton 8.9

20  Jermey Parnell 8.7

21  Doug Free 8.5

22  Ryan Schraeder 7.1

23  Marcus Gilbert 6.8

23  King Dunlap 6.8

23  Riley Reiff 6.8

26  Cordy Glenn 6.5

27  Terron Armstead 6

28  Demar Dotson 5.8

29  Michael Roos 4.6

30  Taylor Lewan 2.2

31  LaAdrian Waddle 1.9

31  Mike Remmers 1.9

33  Mitchell Schwartz 0.5

34  Phil Loadholt 0.3

35  D'Brickashaw Ferguson 0

36  Jake Long -1.5

36  Russell Okung -1.5

38  Ryan Harris -1.6

39  Anthony Davis -2.1

40  Justin Pugh -2.6

41  Ryan Clady -2.8

42  Bobby Massie -4

43  Louis Vasquez -4.2

44  Nate Solder -4.9

45  Paul Cornick -5

46  Michael Ola -5.3

47  Andre Smith Jr. -5.4

48  Joe Barksdale -5.9

49  Michael Harris -6.1

50  Cornelius Lucas -6.4

51  Breno Giacomini -6.5

52  Chris Clark -6.7

53  David Bakhtiari -7.1

54  Khalif Barnes -7.2

55  Austin Pasztor -7.8

56  Sam Young -8.8

56  D.J. Fluker -8.8

58  Jermon Bushrod -9

59  Gabe Carimi -10.1

60  Jonathan Martin -10.9

61  Marshall Newhouse -11.6

62  Tyler Polumbus -12.6

63  Anthony Collins -12.9

63  Eugene Monroe -12.9

65  Mike Adams -14.5

66  Jordan Mills -15.7

67  Luke Joeckel -15.8

68  Nate Chandler -16.1

68  Tom Compton -16.1

70  Gosder Cherilus -16.8

71  Menelik Watson -17.2

72  Eric Fisher -17.5

72  Bryce Harris -17.5

74  Justin Britt -18.5

75  Michael Oher -20.2

75  Dallas Thomas -20.2

77  Oniel Cousins -21

78  Greg Robinson -24.1

79  James Hurst -24.9

80  Ja'Wuan James -28.4

81  Matt Kalil -29.1

82  Seantrel Henderson -29.9

83  Byron Bell -33.4

84  Jake Matthews -36.8

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Flowers is a guy I'm actually keeping an eye on. He's a very Kelvin Benjamin like prospect in that if he wouldve gone back to school I think he wouldve gone way up on draft boards and the year of refinement wouldve helped him.

I'm a little concerned he'll rise now actually.

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I've seen a lot of Beatty. He's a middle of the road OT who can have a stretch of awful play but then be really good.

 

He was definitely helped out this year by McAdoo's offense, which was WCO based and had a lot of shorter routes/shorter protection time.

 

He's solid in both the run game and pas protection. He'd clearly be an upgrade over Bell. 

 

I think Gettleman will definitely be interested in him if signed. 

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