If Cam threw 4 interceptions in a game...

[ThinkAboutIt]

But did he not come through at the end?   It doesn't matter that he had 4 ints it matter if he helps the team win at the end.  Something Cam failed to do.  

 

Wilson's defense and RB made it possible for him to "come through at the end." Cam's 4 INTs came in a game where the Panthers' offense put up 28 points and its STs scored another 7, and they still lost by 14.

 

Panthers 35

Detroit 49

 

Cam's rookie season when his defense was one of the worst in the NFL.

 

Is Wilson's defense one of the worst?

[EgoDogg]

Okay.. umm, Jeremy, I think we need a new forum "Cam vs." I think that would clean this place up quite a bit

[TheRumGone]

Last year in the Superbowl, he won a game where the defense scored more points than the offense, and they did it early.

But of course Wilson gets the credit with the media, though he doesn't win Superbowl MVP. Someone on the defense did.

Of course Wilson doesn't usually throw this many interceptions, cause Seattle's game plan usually works. However, when he's asked to make throws in the pocket (and not running), he struggles. You know that.

Wilson's offense is set up for him to throw off play action, fakes, motion, bootlegs, and timing patterns. He's rarely asked to sit in the pocket and make multiple reads. Now, I'm not saying he's not good at it. He is. However, many people equate this with him being a "pocket/Drop QB" when he obviously not, while Cam gets the tag of "running QB" cause his team hasn't won a Superbowl like Wilson's.

I got you thought, and know you're a big fan of Wilson. It's a good discussion.

I think he's exceptional in the fact that he's not a traditional qb, even if he relies on others. He just makes things happen when given the opportunity. Even if that opportunity comes off the backs of others. It's admirable and he knows it.

I never went to state or Wisconsin but I watched him play ball with the tourists. I'm a bigger baseball fan than football (if you can believe it) and I love his game. I like the small man mentality who can just wing it like my dad used to talk about with doug flutie.

Lots of people's hate of RW and luck comes from the media and the jealousy that cam gets treated differently. I get that and I've felt and voiced that. I've just come to the conclusion that it's a ridiculous mindset. I like watching RW and luck play a ton but I like watching cam play even more and succeeding because he has dealt with more adversity than most people in their lifetimes (from a professional standpoint). I screamed like a little girl when cams name was read by goodell because I knew the panthers finally had something special at the most important position in the league. You don't have to split hairs too much too appreciate how talented this young group of qbs are. But damn I hope cam and the panthers take home more Lombardis than any of them because

1. I'm a panthers fan and

2. Cams smile is infectious for good vibes

[mcdougal]

The same Huddlers going on and on about how much "talent" Wilson has around him are the same Huddlers who thought Luck was Jesus when he turned over the ball 5 times vs. the Chiefs and the Colts won.

 

You know the playoff game where Luck had about 4 lucky plays and his defense shut out the Chiefs in the second half...

[FootballMaestro]

And yet he got picked off 4 times (on just 29 passes). When Cam did that once he was "inaccurate" and "not smart." 

 

 

Yup, when other QB's throw picks, it's conveniently forgotten or overlooked. However, when Cam does; not only is he picked upon, but becomes a consistent referendum on whether or not he can develop as a franchise NFL QB.

 

It's gets old. And its' totally unfounded; especially when looking at other QB's making similar or worse mistakes.

 

[TrianglePanther]

Got to put the talent around him, at one point in the game he had two completions to the other team and none to his own. But the defense locked down for him

Would you trade our pass catchers for theirs? Just wondering.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

The same Huddlers going on and on about how much "talent" Wilson has around him are the same Huddlers who thought Luck was Jesus when he turned over the ball 5 times vs. the Chiefs and the Colts won.

 

You know the playoff game where Luck had about 4 lucky plays and his defense shut out the Chiefs in the second half...

 

i think it's even simpler than that

 

any quarterback who does anything good did it because they're better than cam

 

if cam accomplished the same thing or better there's an auto generated list of ten thousand reasons why it didn't really count.  keep in mind that if a non-cam quarterback and cam newton have the same or a similar advantage (elite defense or something similar to help mitigate their mistakes) the double standard kicks in and such a thing is only detrimental to cam when considering how much he deserves credit for doing anything good.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Would you trade our pass catchers for theirs? Just wondering.

 

nah

 

coaching staff sure

[FootballMaestro]

i think it'd be crazy to credit the win to that which is what a lot of people are doing

 

We all know, if Newton won a play off game throwing 4 picks, many on the Huddle and in the media would be killing Newton, and saying how they won despite of him. Let's face it.

[FootballMaestro]

nah

 

coaching staff sure

 

But I would take their defense, OC, DC, ST, and Head Coach in a blink!

 

[teeray]

We all know, if Newton won a play off game throwing 4 picks, many on the Huddle and in the media would be killing Newton, and saying how they won despite of him. Let's face it.

They did after the Zona game!!

[The Huddler]

Last year in the Superbowl, he won a game where the defense scored more points than the offense, and they did it early.

But of course Wilson gets the credit with the media, though he doesn't win Superbowl MVP. Someone on the defense did.

Of course Wilson doesn't usually throw this many interceptions, cause Seattle's game plan usually works. However, when he's asked to make throws in the pocket (and not running), he struggles. You know that.

Wilson's offense is set up for him to throw off play action, fakes, motion, bootlegs, and timing patterns. He's rarely asked to sit in the pocket and make multiple reads. Now, I'm not saying he's not good at it. He is. However, many people equate this with him being a "pocket/Drop QB" when he obviously not, while Cam gets the tag of "running QB" cause his team hasn't won a Superbowl like Wilson's.

I got you thought, and know you're a big fan of Wilson. It's a good discussion.

Post of the year

[jtm]

But Wilson won the game so all they will talk about is how he overcame adversity. Wilson came through when he needed too and it was impressive.

[pstall]

We all know, if Newton won a play off game throwing 4 picks, many on the Huddle and in the media would be killing Newton, and saying how they won despite of him. Let's face it.

How bout that happens and less see if you're right.