Panthers in talks w/Josh Norman about extension

[MCC]

I think that would be a team friendly deal. With Norman's skill surely to get better, I think he would probably be looking to be a top 3 paid corner in the league.

Marty Hurney, is that you??

[Matthias]

Hopefully Norman will give us a bit of a hometown discount.

[Panthers8969]

If he received a 60% increase why did his salary almost double?

[Squirrel]

Hopefully Norman will give us a bit of a hometown discount.

 

Wont blame him if he doesn't.  He is on a rookie contact and this will be his only other contract unless it is a short one. 

[jasonluckydog]

5 years 20 million all back loaded

[ThPantherFan]

I'd say if you offered him 3 years structured at $4MM, $6MM, and $8MM with maybe $6-7MM guaranteed that'd be fair for all parties.

That gives him terrific earning potential without hamstringing the team with another shitty contract.

 

I could see that.  He's just not proven (for the long haul now) that he is worth a 10 to 12 million contract as some are posting.  I can see a low number with incentives too.  I just don't want to see us get back into a cap situation when we have Luke and Cam to deal with in the long run.  They are going to command a big pay check.

[TheSpecial1]

Marty Hurney, is that you??

 

[O-Ther]

Total money don't care about so much, just make sure the guaranteed money isn't more than $3 to $5 million per year on average. Keep our cap flexible.

[TheSpecial1]

Hopefully Norman will give us a bit of a hometown discount.

 

"This ain't Walmart"     - Michael Bennett

[cgarsmoker]

Total money don't care about so much, just make sure the guaranteed money isn't more than $3 to $5 million per year on average. Keep our cap flexible.

This is a serious question....Isn't the entire contract applied towards the salary cap and counted as dead money if the player is cut before the contract is played out? Maybe it's only the guaranteed money that takes up cap space?

I'm not trying to flame you at all, i simply got confused by your comment. Thanks.

[O-Ther]

This is a serious question....Isn't the entire contract applied towards the salary cap and counted as dead money if the player is cut before the contract is played out? Maybe it's only the guaranteed money that takes up cap space?

I'm not trying to flame you at all, i simply got confused by your comment. Thanks.

 

As best as I understand the cap, only the unpaid guaranteed money (signing bonus, re-structured money) gets accelerated to current year salary cap when player is a non-June 1st cut.

 

Example: Player signs 5 year deal for $10 million with $5 million signing bonus. Player's signing bonus is spread equally over the life of the contract. Player's annual salary is negotiated to be $500k for first 4 years, $3 million in 5th year.  Not a math guy, so making the numbers easy.

 

Player is cut year before year 4. His $500k salary for year 4 and his $3 million salary for year 5 do not apply to salary cap. They just vanish. Guaranteed money however, never disappears and accelerates if player is cut or traded. So team has a $2 million cap charge in dead money from player's remaining spread out signing bonus.

 

Hope I explained that well enough. I'm not a teacher by any means.

 

 

 

 

[pantherclaw]

Smart on the teams part.

Expected by myself.

[cgarsmoker]

As best as I understand the cap, only the unpaid guaranteed money (signing bonus, re-structured money) gets accelerated to current year salary cap when player is a non-June 1st cut.

Example: Player signs 5 year deal for $10 million with $5 million signing bonus. Player's signing bonus is spread equally over the life of the contract. Player's annual salary is negotiated to be $500k for first 4 years, $3 million in 5th year. Not a math guy, so making the numbers easy.

Player is cut year before year 4. His $500k salary for year 4 and his $3 million salary for year 5 do not apply to salary cap. They just vanish. Guaranteed money however, never disappears and accelerates if player is cut or traded. So team has a $2 million cap charge in dead money from player's remaining spread out signing bonus.

Hope I explained that well enough. I'm not a teacher by any means.

Thanks!

[top dawg]

4 years, 12.5 million

I was thinking along those lines.

I have always liked Norman, unlike some, and I have always believed that he had the talent. With him, it's still a matter of mindset. His maturity is still a little sketchy. Moreover, he hasn't shown the consistency for a long enough period in my mind to command A-list money. All these comparisons to Revis are a little amusing at this point. If I am G-man, no way I go north of 6 mil with 12 mil guaranteed for 3 or 4 years.