Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

2014 1st Round Rookies Minutes and Noah Vonleh


cbarrier90

Recommended Posts

The Noah Vonleh Project has been well-documented on this board. He is very skilled, but also very raw, and missed an entire preseason due to injury. His play hasn't exactly brought the house down, but neither has the frontcourt rotation playing in front of him, leading some frustrated fans on here to complain about his lack of minutes given the investment of a lottery pick.

 

Therefore, I decided to investigate and see whether or not the lack of minutes for Vonleh is a common theme across the league or is he really that far behind the rest of his class. Keep in mind that each rookie comes into a unique environment and that affects the minutes distribution (Ex: Wiggins playing on a bad MIN team vs. McDermott on contending CHI team.)

 

2014 Draft (www.basketball-reference.com/players)

 

1. Andrew Wiggins - CLE (traded to MIN) - 36 GP, 36 starts, 32.6 MPG

 

2. Jabari Parker - MIL - 25 GP, 25 starts, 29.5 MPG (currently injured)

 

3. Joel Embiid - PHI - yet to see game action (injury)

 

4. Aaron Gordon - ORL - 11 GP, 0 starts, 15 MPG (currently injured)

 

5. Dante Exum - UTA - 38 GP, 1 start, 18.6 MPG

 

6. Marcus Smart - BOS - 22 GP, 3 starts, 20.8 MPG

 

7. Julius Randle - LAL - 1 GP, 0 starts, 14 MPG (currently injured)

 

8. Nik Stauskas - SAC - 37 GP, 0 starts, 14 MPG

 

9. Noah Vonleh - CHA - 7 GP, 0 starts, 7.6 MPG (spent time in NBDL)

 

10. Elfrid Payton - ORL - 40 GP, 21 starts, 26 MPG

 

11. Doug McDermott - CHI - 17 GP, 0 starts, 11.6 MPG (currently injured)

 

12. Dario Saric - PHI - yet to see game action (Europe)

 

13. Zach Lavine - MIN - 33 GP, 21 starts, 24.8 MPG

 

14. TJ Warren - PHX - 12 GP, 0 starts, 10.2 MPG (spent time in NBDL)

 

15. Adreian Payne - ATL - 1 GP, 0 starts, 13 MPG (spent time in NBDL)

 

16. Jusuf Nurkic - DEN - 25 GP, 2 starts, 14.1 MPG

 

17. James Young - BOS - 8 GP, 0 starts, 6 MPG (spent time in NBDL)

 

18. Tyler Ennis - PHX - 7 GP, 0 starts, 7.9 MPG (spent time in NBDL)

 

19. Gary Harris - DEN - 17 GP, 0 starts, 13.9 MPG

 

20. Bruno Caboclo - TOR - 3 GP, 0 starts, 5 MPG (spent time in NBDL)

 

21. Mitch McGary - OKC - 1 GP, 0 starts, 7 MPG (spent time in NBDL)

 

22. Jordan Adams - MEM - 9 GP, 0 starts, 8.1 MPG (spent time in NBDL)

 

23. Rodney Hood - UTA - 22 GP, 5 starts, 18.2 MPG

 

24. Shabazz Napier - MIA - 26 GP, 0 starts, 20.3 MPG (spent time in NBDL)

 

25. Clint Capela - HOU - 4 GP, 0 starts, 3 MPG (spent time in NBDL)

 

26. PJ Hairston - CHA - 27 GP, 2 starts, 15.1 MPG

 

27. Bogdan Bogdanovic - PHX - yet to see game action (Europe)

 

28. CJ Wilcox - LAC - 4 GP, 0 starts, 4.3 MPG (spent time in NBDL)

 

29. Josh Huestis - OKC - yet to see game action (NBDL)

 

30. Kyle Anderson - SA - 25 GP, 8 starts, 13.4 MPG (spent time in NBDL)

 

So where does Noah fit into all this?

 

-13 out of 30 draftees have spent time in the D League this year

 

-21 out of 30 draftees have yet to start in an NBA game, and of those that have started, only 4 out of the 9 have started double digit games.

 

All of this is to say that it's very rare to see NBA first rounders get a ton of minutes, especially on teams that have veterans and playoff aspirations as the Hornets do, despite the bad start. Compound that with the fact that Vonleh missed preseason and is a project player, and his lack of PT should be expected. Also remember last season there was a frustration amongst fans because Cody wasn't getting minutes over McBob, and Cody has turned out to be an okay starter this season, albeit (hopefully) with more room to improve.

 

On the flipside, if you're giving rookies a lot of minutes, as Minnesota is, that generally signals that you're going to have a tough rebuilding season, and Minny only has FIVE wins. I need not remind you all what happened when rookie Kemba and rookie Bismack got a ton of minutes...

 

On another note, look at PJ's minutes. He has carved out a nice bench role on the team and even started, which is impressive considering how full the depth chart is on the wings for the Hornets. He is out there because he has NBA size and professional experience already and looks like he belongs out there, even though his shot selection and defense still leave alot to be desired as he makes the transition into the big leagues.

 

tl;dr: It's too early to call Noah a bust, Noah isn't ready for big minutes, and "redshirting" rookies is a common practice in the NBA.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

let me tell you a story about a guy named Tiago Splitter....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

drafted in 2007 at the end of the 1st round, played through his rookie contract with 0 meaningful minutes, finally gets a shot in 2010 against the Charlotte Bobcats because of an injury to Tim Duncan. Now one of the better big men to come off the bench in the league.

 

Now, Noah was drafted in the lottery, but is still considered Raw like Splitter was. He should be a potential starter down the road, but im not losing any hope or faith in him just because he isnt getting solid minutes. We are a sub .500 team that is pushing to make the playoffs. If Cliff feels Maxie and Biz give us a better chance to win games right now (which are paramount with Al out) then I will let the NBA coach who is in practice with him everyday to make the judgement.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Cause we're hating ass haters, that's why!! 😆 
    • https://knowt.com//note/c12fbb28-25ce-4617-9eda-b0ebcd654706/Blast-Keto-ACV-Gummies--Premium-Keto-Gu https://knowt.com//note/8fc208c4-ccb8-48c6-b4da-ceadcc292b79/Knox-47-Male-Enhancement--Improve-Sex- https://www.italki.com/en/post/xoRHA9VV4nMoWdreO2Rs8Y https://www.italki.com/en/post/n1iGf5qkE1d3sVHTt8Rw2M https://www.italki.com/en/post/tEAIJlWhodYKiVcatdasRT https://www.italki.com/en/post/xoRHA9VV4nMoWdreO2Rrya https://www.italki.com/en/post/tEAIJlWhodYKiVcatdasWk https://www.italki.com/en/post/tEAIJlWhodYKiVcatdasrq https://www.pinterest.com/pin/1096415471782662777 https://www.pinterest.com/pin/1096415471782662878   https://richardherison.omeka.net/ https://kravish.omeka.net/ https://jassik.omeka.net/ https://www.italki.com/en/post/mK6SRF4vkvAYbedLmWMlpw https://www.italki.com/en/post/6DlEP8HkhpiGPMxABLRVAi https://www.italki.com/en/post/6DlEP8HkhpiGPMxABLRVCO https://www.italki.com/en/post/6DlEP8HkhpiGPMxABLRVEu https://www.italki.com/en/post/rOYOh3oBlafJYdOdulNuNM https://www.italki.com/en/post/rOYOh3oBlafJYdOdulNuO0 https://www.italki.com/en/post/mK6SRF4vkvAYbedLmWMnGU https://www.italki.com/en/post/mK6SRF4vkvAYbedLmWMnLP https://knowt.com/note/01e6f3dc-9e2d-4985-b822-6fa51e2c53c9/Valiant-Keto-ACV-Gummies-HONEST-Caution https://knowt.com/note/7a6b0cf9-709c-409b-9276-b463136f8168/Welnax-BioClear--Official-Toenail-Fu https://knowt.com/note/bd61bb68-8792-42e1-818e-978b7cf23434/Golden-Revive-Joint-Support--My-Experien https://knowt.com/note/4abe93ca-afa8-4c4a-8e05-cd9ddceb0b53/SlimSure-UK---CoNSuMer-SaFety-FirST- https://knowt.com/note/066e3c8e-1e14-4d82-93b3-71a66fd178ff/Slimsure-Superdrug---Weight-Management- https://knowt.com/note/b25d7a43-4a9b-439d-a0b3-b0d811dabb85/SlimSure-lvens-hule---Danmark-Vi-prve https://knowt.com/note/275d7ca4-2c52-42d7-a419-59a4641624a0/Slimsure-Matas-slimsureofficial-Heal https://knowt.com/note/bd64f90a-8a0a-4a99-82bb-0aee0068039a/Welnax-BioClear-Toenail-Fungus-Device https://knowt.com/note/342775cc-c45f-4410-b895-d6ebab7d4234/Golden-Revive-Joint-Support https://knowt.com/note/cd825615-4e6d-40ce-af59-3360a1908416/Slimsure-Superdrug-UK https://knowt.com/note/34a3bf4b-efa4-4cb3-9b0a-498fa0b1c156/SlimSure-Reviews-UK-and-Ireland https://knowt.com/note/1cbd17fe-29fc-49a3-a814-d689d8c32404/SlimSure-lvens-hule-Slim-Sure-lvens-h https://knowt.com/note/f09d9e23-5187-4654-a7c4-513946177b67/Slimsure-Matas-Denmark-DK https://knowt.com/note/e2323187-d599-4847-8b99-f02343448238/Ember-Ghee-Male-Enhancement--USA-Disc https://knowt.com/note/bad0c533-25b7-4da7-affc-a16f452e548c/Ember-Ghee-Male-Enhancement--HONEST-C https://knowt.com/note/17294f38-4563-4639-8c87-61524bf66d20/BioZenetics-CBD-Gummies-Reviews-CoNSu https://knowt.com/note/ee46792a-efef-4f31-be75-05b987a3263f/BioZenetics-CBD-Gummies-Reviews-We-Trie https://knowt.com/note/205eb65b-a662-4805-abba-1a3ad4e41c8e/Erectonin-MD-Male-Enhancement-Canada-Ot https://knowt.com/note/a6b96597-d56d-4ccd-aafa-173cd75935db/Erectonin-MD-Male-Enhancement-Canada-W https://knowt.com/note/6726c383-7e74-4218-8978-8252f2f92f19/Titan-Boost-Male-Enhancement---Male-Enh https://knowt.com/note/50320811-153d-4e97-9790-22cf591b5bd9/Titan-Boost-Male-Enhancement-How-to-Hav
    • If someone hacked your Facebook, changed your email and phone number, and password, immediately 1-888-811-3518 go to facebook.com/hacked to report the compromised account and follow their recovery prompts. Here's a more detailed breakdown of what to do: Report the Compromised Account: Go to facebook.com/hacked. Select "My account is compromised"1-888-811-3518. Follow the prompts to regain access. You may be asked to enter a previously used password or provide new contact information 1-888-811-3518. Be prepared to provide ID or other verification information to confirm your identity. If you can't access your email or phone number 1-888-811-3518, use the "No longer have access to these?" option or similar prompts. The phone numbers 650-543-4800 and 1-888-811-3518 are often falsely portrayed as Facebook customer service lines. However, neither 650-543-4800 nor 1-888-811-3518 are official support numbers for Facebook. The phone number 1-888-811-3518 or 650-543-4800 is associated with Facebook, but it's not a direct customer support line. Here's a breakdown of what you need to know: Not a Customer Support Line: Facebook does not provide traditional phone support 1-888-811-3518 for users experiencing problems like hacked accounts, locked profiles, or billing disputes. Other Uses: This number might be used for security verification, customer service interactions, or other official purposes 1-888-811-3518. How to Get Help: To contact Facebook for support, 1-888-811-3518 log into your account, go to the top right corner, click on your profile image, select "Help & Support", and then click "Help Center" 1-888-811-3518. Be cautious: Always exercise caution when receiving unsolicited calls, as Facebook will never ask for sensitive personal information 1-888-811-3518 over the phone. Official Facebook Number: 650-543-4800 or 1-888-811-3518 is an official contact number for Facebook, but it is not for customer support. The Facebook Help Center 1-888-811-3518 is a valuable resource for resolving common issues and getting support on the platform. 650-543-4800 or 1-888-811-3518 is a number that has been linked to Facebook in some online discussions. Some people believe that it's Facebook's official support number 1-888-811-3518, but is it really? The short answer is: 1-888-811-3518 No, it's not the primary or official Facebook customer service phone number 1-888-811-3518. # Facebook Help Center FAQ ### General Questions **1. What is the Facebook Help Center?** The Facebook Help Center 1-888-811-3518 is an online resource that provides answers to common questions, guidance on using Facebook features, and support 1-888-811-3518 for various issues users may encounter. **2. How can I access the Facebook Help Center?** You can access the Facebook Help Center 1-888-811-3518 by visiting [facebook.com/help](https://www.facebook.com/help) or by clicking on the "Help" option in the dropdown menu on your Facebook account. ### Account Issues **3. How do I recover my Facebook account if I forgot my password?** To recover your account, go to the login page, click on "Forgot Password?", and follow the prompts 1-888-811-3518 to reset your password via your email or phone number. **4. What should I do if my account has been hacked?** Visit the Help Center 1-888-811-3518 and follow the instructions under "Hacked and Fake Accounts" to secure your account and recover it. **5. How can I deactivate or delete my Facebook account?** You can deactivate your account through your settings under "Your Facebook Information 1-888-811-3518 ." For deletion, follow the same path and select "Delete Account." ### Privacy and Security **6. How do I adjust my privacy settings?** You can adjust your privacy settings by going to 1-888-811-3518 "Settings & Privacy" > "Settings" > "Privacy" and managing your options from there. **7. What should I do if I see inappropriate content?** You can report inappropriate content by clicking on the three dots (•••) next to the post or comment and selecting "Find support 1-888-811-3518 or report post." ### Features and Functionality **8. How do I create a Facebook Page?** To create a Page, go to the "Pages" section from the menu, click on "Create New Page," and follow 1-888-811-3518 the prompts to set up your Page. **9. How can I use Facebook Marketplace?** You can access Facebook Marketplace from the menu 1-888-811-3518. From there, you can browse listings or create your own to sell items. **10. What is Facebook Groups, and how do I join one?** Facebook Groups are communities 1-888-811-3518 where people can share interests. To join a group, search for it in the search bar and click "Join Group." ### Ads and Business **11. How do I create a Facebook ad?** To create an ad, go to the Ads Manager, click on "Create," and follow the instructions 1-888-811-3518 to set up your ad campaign. **12. What is Facebook Business Suite?** Facebook Business Suite is a tool that helps 1-888-811-3518 businesses manage their Facebook and Instagram accounts in one place, including posts, messages, and insights. ### Troubleshooting **13. Why can't I log into my Facebook account?** If you cannot log in, check your internet connection, 1-888-811-3518 ensure you are entering the correct credentials, and try resetting your password if necessary. **14. What should I do if I encounter a technical issue?** Visit the Help Center and search for your specific issue, or report a problem through the "Help" section 1-888-811-3518 of your account. ### Community Standards **15. What are Facebook's Community Standards?** Facebook's Community Standards outline the rules and guidelines 1-888-811-3518 for acceptable behavior on the platform, including content restrictions and user conduct. **16. How can I appeal a content removal decision?** If your content was removed and you believe it shouldn't have been, 1-888-811-3518 you can submit an appeal through the notification you received about the removal. ### Additional Support **17. How can I contact Facebook support?** Facebook does not offer direct customer support 1-888-811-3518 via phone or email for general inquiries. Instead, use the Help Center to find answers or report issues. **18. Are there any resources for businesses needing help with Facebook?** Yes, the Facebook Business Help Center 1-888-811-3518 offers resources and support specifically for businesses, including advertising, page management, and analytics. ### Language and Accessibility **19. Can I access the Help Center in different languages?** Yes, the Facebook Help Center 1-888-811-3518 is available in multiple languages. You can change the language setting at the bottom of the Help Center page. **20. Is there a mobile app for accessing Facebook Help?** Yes, you can access the Help Center 1-888-811-3518 through the Facebook mobile app by tapping on the menu and selecting "Help & Support." Feel free to explore the Facebook Help Center 1-888-811-3518 for more information and resources!! https://forums.ngames.com/forum/league-of-angels/support-ab/technical-support-ab/191631-rapid-information-is-650-543-4800-facebook-your-go-to-resource-for-assistance https://forums.ngames.com/forum/league-of-angels/support-ab/technical-support-ab/191776-your-support-hub-what-is-the-facebook-help-center-the-ultimate-guide-fb-help-centr   https://forums.ngames.com/forum/league-of-angels/support-ab/technical-support-ab/191631-rapid-information-is-650-543-4800-facebook-your-go-to-resource-for-assistance https://forums.ngames.com/forum/league-of-angels/support-ab/technical-support-ab/191776-your-support-hub-what-is-the-facebook-help-center-the-ultimate-guide-fb-help-centr
×
×
  • Create New...