The Divisional round continues, Cowboys at Packers

[HeatCheck]

The ground can't cause a fumble, it can cause an incomplete pass

 

When you catch the ball, and you go towards the ground NO MATTER WHAT you must maintain possession. It doesn't matter about the steps or none of that. A lot of people are misunderstanding and thats the problem

 

Well the steps do play a factor to a degree. If you take the necessary steps that can be deemed a "football move" then making a catch while going to the ground isn't in play.

[FugginPoo]

Poetic justice

[gettlemanjack]

Just watched the replay, clear incompletion. He was falling through the entire process, his two feet hitting the ground don't a football move make. Have to possess the ball all the way to the ground, not just til he's down by contact. He got bit by the Megatron rule, but it is a rule. The ground knocked it out, so it's an incomplete pass.

he was down before ball hit ground

[beastson]

Well the steps do play a factor to a degree. If you take the necessary steps that can be deemed a "football move" then making a catch while going to the ground isn't in play.

 

But idk where yall getting that from cause it's not true. Everybody knows if you catch the ball and fall towards the ground, you can't lose possession which he did once he recaught it

[cptx]

[HeatCheck]

But idk where yall getting that from cause it's not true. Everybody knows if you catch the ball and fall towards the ground, you can't lose possession which he did once he recaught it

 

I know that, I'm not saying that's the situation we have. But steps do matter.

 

Just imagine you throw the ball to a receiver over the middle, he catches it, takes 5 steps downfield and falls down after being pushed. That is when ground can't cause a fumble comes into play. I'm just saying steps do play a factor...it just wasn't relevant to this play.

[beastson]

I know that, I'm not saying that's the situation we have. But steps do matter.

 

Just imagine you throw the ball to a receiver over the middle, he catches it, takes 5 steps downfield and falls down after being pushed. That is when ground can't cause a fumble comes into play. I'm just saying steps do play a factor...it just wasn't relevant to this play.

 

Naw man the steps doesn't matter when falling towards the ground. If Dez caught the ball and ran towards the endzone and dived and fumbled, then he'll be down. So completely different than falling towards the ground after a catch. The rule got changed and yall know that lol

[gettlemanjack]

Let's hope the refs don't ruin this Colts vs Broncos game too...

[HeatCheck]

Naw man the steps doesn't matter when falling towards the ground. If Dez caught the ball and ran towards the endzone and dived and fumbled, then he'll be down. So completely different than falling towards the ground after a catch. The rule got changed and yall know that lol

 

I never meant to say steps don't matter when your falling to the ground, only that steps matter in general. You're right, the steps he was taking during this play was as his momentum was taking him to the ground.

 

I just wanted to point out that steps play a difference after making a catch, that's all.

 

Wasn't really challenging your thoughts on the play, because I had been discussing the right application of the rule earlier in the thread 

[gettlemanjack]

The Dez catch will be debated for the next 100 years. Pretty obviously a catch tho if we were playing backyard ball

[Goondal]

The Panthers could have and should have at least played the Seahawks close down to the 4th quarter.

 

Seahawks are certainly beatable, yes even in Seattle. It's just a stadium like any other.

 

Also let's not forget the fact that Green Bay has a coach who knows you need to score touchdowns instead of playing for field goals. The Packers should not have trouble putting up points, it should be a close game. Anything can happen though of course, that's football.

 

When you have Rodgers you always have a chance but they got blown out up there at the beginning of the season and Seattle is playing better now and Rodgers is not healthy.  I would be very surprised if they win.

[Kevin Greene]

The Dez catch will be debated for the next 100 years. Pretty obviously a catch tho if we were playing backyard ball

 

 

It was ruled correctly as the rules currently apply to the NFL.

 

No catch.

[JawnyBlaze]

he was down before ball hit ground

 

Irrelevent.  He's gotta maintain possession throughout the process, not just until "down".  When someone catches a TD pass, they're "down" as soon as two feet touch in bounds because that's the TD.  Just like when running the ball, as soon as the ball breaks the plane, it doesn't matter if they fumble because it's already "down" by virtue of having scored the TD.  But on a catch, they have to maintain possession all the way.  That's the rule.  Shitty rule, but that's the rule and it's been enforced as such for a while now.

 

[JawnyBlaze]

The Dez catch will be debated for the next 100 years. Pretty obviously a catch tho if we were playing backyard ball

 

Nah, this one will be forgotten in a week or two because it was so clearly not a catch.  Not even in the top 5 most controversial calls of the playoffs.