What does Gettleman do about Cam

[TonyN]

What's really hilarious is how many Huddlers are butt-hurt at the thought of Newton's camp being offered a team-friendly contract heavy on incentives and low on guaranteed money. These people would rather see the Panthers saddled with a contract they can't get out of rather than see a contract where Newton has to earn his money...insecurity perhaps ???

 

It's the same group of whiners who can't admit that Newton has already been passed by Luck, Wilson...shoot...look at the numbers...Ryan Tannehill just had as good a season as Newton has ever had. Compare Tannehill's first three years with Newton's first three years...it won't shock many if Newton is surpassed in the next couple of years by several other young QB's...Teddy Bridgewater has the same career passer rating as Cam Newton...

 

Meanwhile, Newton and his statistical doppleganger Andy Dalton just finished 25th and 26th in NFL passer rating...

 

 

 

 

[Pox 08]

If I were Buss Cook I would say "Hey, it is hard to be consistent when the left side of line are two UDFAS and the right side is a rookie and a DT.

Yet Cam still got you 24 TDS in 14 games despite a busted ankle, broken ribs, and broken back.

Oh and he won the NFCS twice in a row.

Something Drew Brees and Matt Ryan have not done.

It is not lost on me that Cam's perceived issues of inconsistencies aligned with the play of the offensive line. As O-line improved so did Cam's play. That is not a coincidence.

Cam is also on 25 years old. 2 years younger than Kaepernick and Dalton and 1 year younger than Russell Wilson.

He is a captain, and his teammates have continually they feed off of him. He is the face of this franchise.

You know Mr Gettleman that most QBS do not fully hit their stride until year 6 or 7 of their careers. If my client has accomplished this much now, just imagine where he will be 3 or 4 years from now.

He has already won 2 NFCS championships

been to 2 pro bowls

accounted for 115 TDS in 4 years

Been to the divisional round of the playoffs in consecutive years

and yet is still the same age of most 2nd year QBs.

QBS like Cam Newton do not come around very often. We are willing to commit to you if you are willing to truly commit to Cam"

 

 

 

 

But I don't understand how new contracts work and the market value of young qbs that have as much experience as Cam and some of the best stats in NFL history over his first four years compared to other qbs in their first four years.

 

..  surely if he were to hit FA,  the best he could get would be $7M-$10M a year?

 

[TheRed]

What's really hilarious is how many Huddlers are butt-hurt at the thought of Newton's camp being offered a team-friendly contract heavy on incentives and low on guaranteed money. These people would rather see the Panthers saddled with a contract they can't get out of rather than see a contract where Newton has to earn his money...insecurity perhaps ???

It's the same group of whiners who can't admit that Newton has already been passed by Luck, Wilson...shoot...look at the numbers...Ryan Tannehill just had as good a season as Newton has ever had. Compare Tannehill's first three years with Newton's first three years...it won't shock many if Newton is surpassed in the next couple of years by several other young QB's...Teddy Bridgewater has the same career passer rating as Cam Newton...

Meanwhile, Newton and his statistical doppleganger Andy Dalton just finished 25th and 26th in NFL passer rating...

You literally disappear for months on end and only show up after losses.

You have zero room to talk about other huddlers. At least they are here through it all, unlike you.

[teeray]

Go back and watch the presser, it is better to get context of what he is saying if you actually watch the press conference.  Although him being more consistent was said, overall it was pretty complimentary to Cam Newton.  AT one point Gettleman had to stop himself from saying "He was phenomenal" before he talks about the preseason injuries and the bottom falling out of the offensive line.

 

 

http://www.panthers.com/media-vault/videos/Dave-Gettleman-Im-excited/c30ab64c-a114-4dca-84ec-f1f67a6d8b84

 

 

Here is the full answer, but I still suggest you rewatch it (at about the 23:00 mark)

 

 

“Just like our team. We need him to be more consistent, and the players around him need to be more consistent. (Right here he says, He was phenom... then stops himself) Step back and think about his year. So he starts with his surgery. We don’t have him during OTAs. We get him rolling in training camp. He gets the ribs in New England. Can’t play Tampa. The first two games, nobody was talking about our offensive line or our speed or anything else. We’re 2-0. We lose two, come back and beat Chicago. So we’re 3-2. We throw up 37 points against Cincinnati, so no one’s talking about it. And then the bottom fell out with the offensive line. I’m not making excuses; I’m talking about reality. Putting the whole season together. He told you himself after the Arizona game — he needs to improve his mechanics. He said that to you guys. It’s a building process. Everybody wants a player to be great yesterday. It doesn’t work that way with everybody. It doesn’t work that way with anybody. It takes time.”

 

[carpanfan96]

But I don't understand how new contracts work and the market value of young qbs that have as much experience as Cam and some of the best stats in NFL history over his first four years compared to other qbs in their first four years.

.. surely if he were to hit FA, the best he could get would be $7M-$10M a year?

Try closer to 21-22 million, 25 year old 2 time pro bowler with prolific total yards and total touchdown numbers with room to grow... That's awfully isn't enticing for a team in need of a QB.

I mean Alex Smith makes 17m a season and Jay Cutler makes roughly 18-19m a season.

[Pox 08]

Try closer to 21-22 million, 25 year old 2 time pro bowler with prolific total yards and total touchdown numbers with room to grow... That's awfully isn't enticing for a team in need of a QB.

I mean Alex Smith makes 17m a season and Jay Cutler makes roughly 18-19m a season.

 

But I have saw some of our very best posters,  over the last few months,  talk about Cam's worth.   Surely they are being legit and not biased at all when they put his worth at around $10M a year. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Surely.

 

 

 

 

In all seriousness though...  If Cam is allowed to test FA.............  there is definitely a team out there that will break the bank on him.  probably around $23M-$25M a year,  depending on their current qb situation and how their qb situation has looked in recent years. 

[teeray]

6 year $120 million dollars with between 30-40 million guaranteed

 

That is my guess

[PandaPancake]

6 year $120 million dollars with between 30-40 million guaranteed

That is my guess

And he has to return punts.

[teeray]

And he has to return punts.

 

He cant be much worse than the guys we have currently returning punts

[MHS831]

 

Going into negotiations, he understands that everything he says or does could swing the results one way or the other. He is going to play things close until the deal is done.

 

What he said at the press conference was risky (not playing things close), in your opinion?  I mean, bringing up Cam's inconsistencies and mechanics could have been considered reckless, if you look at it that way. On the other hand, he did not say anything more than Cam has said himself.  Was he bringing these facts to the surface through the media for a purpose?  I don't know.

 

I also am guessing that they are already in negotiations of some sort--I think each side knows the others' wants and concerns by now.  I think it would be odd if they didn't.  I have not read anything one way or another, however.

[MHS831]

The number for Cam, if you compare, will be around or just over $20m per season, one would guess.  The guaranteed money will be less than half (or right at it), in my opinion.  That is probably where the $10m is coming from. 

[Pox 08]

6 yrs, $135M,    $65M guaranteed.  is my prediction.

[TheRumGone]

6 year $120 million dollars with between 30-40 million guaranteed

That is my guess

I think more towards mid 40 but these people are out of their minds if they think cam is going to accept a kaepernick 16 mill fully gauranteed with incentive escalators

[Marguide]

For TonyN and those of his ilk, all of us want to see a win-win deal get done, fair for both sides. No one wants either party to suffer from buyer's remorse a year or two into the contract.

However, trying to get Cam to agree to an Andy Dalton contract and drawing a line in the sand at that level would not end well for the team. Those wanting us to get back in the QB market to find one more suitable to their taste are the ones not thinking of the team's welfare.