What does Gettleman do about Cam

[teeray]

115 TDs

2 NFCS championships

2 pro bowls

In 4 years

Only 25 years old

Pay that man. Get it done. He is a GREAT young QB.

The standard some of you guys hold him to is rediculous.

[Squirrel]

He didn't win those games on his own. But with that said he did help a lot too. I'm not against Cam getting a reasonable contract but anything over 19 mil a year I can see.

[Mr. Scot]

115 TDs

2 NFCS championships

2 pro bowls

In 4 years

Only 25 years old

Pay that man. Get it done. He is a GREAT young QB.

The standard some of you guys hold him to is rediculous.

 

I don't think you wanna make the stat based argument dude.

 

In that same span, Andy Dalton has 110 touchdowns, has also been to the Pro Bowl and has made the playoffs four straight years.

 

Would you hand Andy Dalton a blank check?

[MHS831]

You're overthinking this and giving Gettleman too much credit. Whether you like Cam or not, so many games that we've won is by him taking it over. Rarely we win a game because our skill players are just better than the other team. Alot of those 50 yards rushing games put us in a position to be a playoff team.

 

Now, let's talk Gettleman. He's a GM, not the owner. He loses Cam and we go on a rebuild mode by winning only 3 games again, he'll get fired. That's a fact.

 

Everyone know Cam is inconsistent but he makes up for it by not being one dimensional. Most QBs are one-demensional, they can't rectify their mistakes.

 

 

You are being subjective. Gettlemen had 8 rookies on the field starting. He had street free agents, PS players all contributing.  Do you have any idea how hard it was for him to find talent 'shopping at the dollar store?" Name 1 GM that has ever done that, especially when igniting a 5 win streak.   You are giving Cam too much credit.  The defense kept us in games so Cam could get it together and take over at the end.  Cam is going to get the deal, but there are factors that could block it.  If Cam thinks he is worth top 5 money, he won't get the offer he wants.  I am saying offer him the money, but not all guaranteed.  

 

I am just telling you what Gettlemen is thinking.  You are emotional about Cam--that is great--that is being a fan.  But Gettlemen is paid to be objective.  He will be.  And Gettlemen deserves a TON of credit.  This might have been the best group or rookies ever assembled by a GM--time will tell.  Name one that is better--you can't.

[teeray]

You are being subjective. Gettlemen had 8 rookies on the field starting. He had street free agents, PS players all contributing. Do you have any idea how hard it was for him to find talent 'shopping at the dollar store?" Name 1 GM that has ever done that, especially when igniting a 5 win streak. You are giving Cam too much credit. The defense kept us in games so Cam could get it together and take over at the end. Cam is going to get the deal, but there are factors that could block it. If Cam thinks he is worth top 5 money, he won't get the offer he wants. I am saying offer him the money, but not all guaranteed.

I am just telling you what Gettlemen is thinking. You are emotional about Cam--that is great--that is being a fan. But Gettlemen is paid to be objective. He will be. And Gettlemen deserves a TON of credit. This might have been the best group or rookies ever assembled by a GM--time will tell. Name one that is better--you can't.

Quit acting like you know for certain what Gettleman is thinking.

[teeray]

I don't think you wanna make the stat based argument dude.

In that same span, Andy Dalton has 110 touchdowns, has also been to the Pro Bowl and has made the playoffs four straight years.

Would you hand Andy Dalton a blank check?

Didn't Andy Dalton already get an extension?

[Mr. Scot]

Didn't Andy Dalton already get an extension?

 

Yes.  A Kaepernick style deal with low guaranteed money.

 

[MHS831]

Quit acting like you know for certain what Gettleman is thinking.

 

I never said for certain; that was you.  Read the title of the thread.  What did you expect to read here?  Fug off. In the event your purpose was to be more than a smart ass--

 

I made interpretations based on Gettlemen's comments.  That is how you get ideas about what someone is thinking. 

 

You don't want to hear what he is saying because it conflicts with your idealism.  I am commenting on what Gettlemen is telling people he will do--what any good GMs do. "No emotional decisions...not going to overpay....etc."  He then mentions Cam's inconsistencies, his mechanics, etc. What do you think he is telling us- Interpret it any other way. 

 

 

If you interpret it differently, please elaborate.

[teeray]

I never said for certain; that was you. Read the title of the thread. What did you expect to read here? Fug off. In the event your purpose was to be more than a smart ass--

I made interpretations based on Gettlemen's comments. That is how you get ideas about what someone is thinking.

You don't want to hear what he is saying because it conflicts with your idealism. I am commenting on what Gettlemen is telling people he will do--what any good GMs do. "No emotional decisions...not going to overpay....etc." He then mentions Cam's inconsistencies, his mechanics, etc. What do you think he is telling us- Interpret it any other way.

If you interpret it differently, please elaborate.

Where did I say anything about what Gettleman is thinking?

You said to someone else "I am just telling you what Gettleman is thinking" as if you know, and then talking down to them as if you were the authority of Gettleman logic and accusing everyone else of being hyper emotional that just can't see it.

Seeing your hyper emotional response to my post (telling me to fug off and calling me a smart ass) it seems like you might be the one too emotional to discuss these topics

[Pox 08]

Yes.  A Kaepernick style deal with low guaranteed money.

 

 

because with him leading the Bengals..............they were 0-4 in the playoffs.      With qbs getting too much credit for wins....  had the Bengals won just one of those first three playoff games,   Dalton would have probably gotten a little more guaranteed money and they wouldn't be treating him as the interchangeable  weak link of their team.

[goodoleboy]

Bottom line is do not handcuff the team by paying too much for Cam. I read on here all the time about how Gettleman hasn't given Cam enough weapons to win.

Cam has been given a top 10 defense. That is a weapon. Hopefully he realizes that and signs a contract that will allow us to keep that defense together.

Time will tell. We have him for 3 more years regardless with franchise tags. I am ok with waiting until this time next year. You want Flaaco money Cam. Win a super bowl.

[MedellinHeel]

Bottom line is do not handcuff the team by paying too much for Cam. I read on here all the time about how Gettleman hasn't given Cam enough weapons to win.

Cam has been given a top 10 defense. That is a weapon. Hopefully he realizes that and signs a contract that will allow us to keep that defense together.

Time will tell. We have him for 3 more years regardless with franchise tags. I am ok with waiting until this time next year. You want Flaaco money Cam. Win a super bowl.

 

Not sure what people dont understand. Cam is gonna get a massive deal. Either from us or someone else. And best believe some team will. Cam is not gonna pass up getting that kind of money at this stage in his career. 

 

Our only two options is to grossly overpay or let him walk. Tough position to be in for the FO. 

[MHS831]

Where did I say anything about what Gettleman is thinking?

You said to someone else "I am just telling you what Gettleman is thinking" as if you know, and then talking down to them as if you were the authority of Gettleman logic and accusing everyone else of being hyper emotional that just can't see it.

Seeing your hyper emotional response to my post (telling me to fug off and calling me a smart ass) it seems like you might be the one too emotional to discuss these topics

 

The thread title should tell you what people would be talking about here.  A bit late to try to take the high road.  A person would have to be pretty dumb to assume a poster on this thread is professing to know what the GM of the Panthers actually thinks. However, an intelligent person would assume that the conclusions are circumstantial inferences and assumptions based on the vague and ambiguous comments made by the GM.  It is assumed participants would understand that. I don't think you are that dumb, so your purpose was to be sarcastic without a point.  And you are not qualified to judge anyone, especially if the underlying premise of a discussion board seems to have escaped your grasp.

[SmokinwithWilly]

I know QBs are getting paid huge deals. The question I have is, Can a QB make up the difference with endorsements. Winners get endorsements, losers don't. I don't pretend to be a contract expert, but it seems to me Cam could make a lot more from endorsements being on a winner than getting a big contract but being perpetually mediocre from lack of surrounding talent. Again, not a contract expert, but I believe there's a lot more to consider for Cam than just what the Panthers offer.