What does Gettleman do about Cam

[ThinkAboutIt]

Don't you have to study for your GED retest?

It is possible to make sure that he gets better CONTRACTUALLY--which was the topic. If he does not, you get out of the deal.   The reason I am having to explain that to you is all I need to know about you.  Just ignore my posts and respond to those that have pictures.

 

Again, keep repeating yourself and cementing your ignorance. Cam has done more than enough ALREADY to warrant a contract extension now. He needs to get better for the same reason every NFL player needs to get better: Because they can be better, and it's their job to do so. Players don't get contract extensions because they no longer need to "get better," DUH. That will forever be the major flaw in your inane argument.

 

What matters most is whether he has already done enough to warrant one, and the answer is, overwhelmingly, yes. 

[cgarsmoker]

Cam has no advantage right now over Gman.

If both sides want to make a deal, it will get done. I would say Cam has some leverage because their are QB desperate teams that will pony up the cash for a QB so he will get paid from us or some other team. If the Panthers let him walk, we are set back 2-3 years starting over with another rookie. If we miss on the next QB to replace Cam, we are set back 4-5 years.

[MHS831]

Again, keep repeating yourself and cementing your ignorance. Cam has done more than enough ALREADY to warrant a contract extension now. He needs to get better for the same reason every NFL player needs to get better: Because they can be better, and it's their job to do so. Players don't get contract extensions because they no longer need to "get better," DUH. That will forever be the major flaw in your inane argument.

 

What matters most is whether he has already done enough to warrant one, and the answer is, overwhelmingly, yes. 

 

Go away. This is obviously more important to you than it should be.  Sorry you are butt hurt.

[Growl]

If Gettie doesn't get this deal done soon, then this ogor will screw the Panthers again by signing his Mega Deal and make us pay even more for Cam

That guy really needs to shave

[ThinkAboutIt]

Go away. This is obviously more important to you than it should be.  Sorry you are butt hurt.

 

Highlighting your ignorance is very important. 

[ThinkAboutIt]

I wouldn't pay him more than Kaep or Dalton. That should be where the negotiate start and end.

 

Both of those guys have had SUPERIOR SUPPORTING CASTS FOR THE DURATION OF THEIR NFL CAREERS. Cam has been severely handicapped by his front offices compared to those guys. 

 

This is an easy argument for Cam's agent to win.

[cgarsmoker]

I wouldn't pay him more than Kaep or Dalton. That should be where the negotiate start and end.

I don't want to overpay Cam or any other player and Gettleman seems to know what he's doing so I'm trusting he works a deal that is good for Cam and the Panthers.

[ThinkAboutIt]

I agree.

You could even add in that they have better OCs. Tho, you gotta look at what Cam needs to improve on and there's a lot.

 

When you point out the fact that those guys are working with a lot more, in terms of protection, weapons, OFFENSIVE MINDS, and even defenses (Cam's defense sucked until near the end of his second season, and then again for much of this one), one has to ask, how can you accurately assess how much Cam needs to improve? Give him some speed on the outside (that isn't a midget), and all of a sudden he might look like he has one less thing to improve. Had you given him an NFL-caliber LT, he might have looked like he had one less thing to improve. 

 

Regardless, the next contract isn't about whether he doesn't have anything to improve. He, like all players, will always have things he needs to improve. The question is, given what you've put around him Dave and Marty, including an inconsistent OC like Chud followed up by Mike "OMG" Shula, and a first-time head coach like Rivera, has he done enough already to earn a contract? Yes, in spite of his organization, he's set records and entered the history books, already.

 

If his coaches didn't also need to learn, maybe he'd have gotten further than he has so far. 

 

One of my main problems is people ignoring all of the FLAWS in Cam's surroundings. Point blank, if I was his agent, my base argument would be look at his total production despite THE PANTHERS' ORGANIZATION FAILING HIM. 

[MHS831]

Folks, arguing that Cam has not performed well at times because his supporting cast is bad is not a reason to assume he deserves to be rewarded with a big deal. You are saying that we do not know how good he can be yet--------what I have been saying for weeks.   If they are still making comments like "inconsistent" and talking about his mechanics after 4 years, and they could have a deal done by now but don't, at some point, a little light will come on.   Maybe the GM seeks a deal with Cam that will give the team an out should he not get better when surrounded with talent.  Incentive-based. They are businessmen.  They do not keep jobs by risking $100m because they are emotionally attached to a player.  Bitch all you want, but the deal will protect the Panther's best interests in the event the OL, WRs, OC, were not the real reason for the inconsistency.  It really blows my mind that everyone cannot see this.  It is not a theory.  It is the way good GMs operate, and I think we have one.

 

 

[carpanfan96]

100 million is what an average qb is worth, we know Cam is worth more then Alex Smith and Jay Cutler. Just based on the NFL landscape, Cam is worth 100 million, the question isn't if he's worth that, it's if he's worth 120 million or so with half guaranteed. Is he worth 20 million a season on average or just 18-19 million a season on average. Some here have their argument entirely wrong because Cam is completely worth 100-110 million over 6 years, the real argument and factor is he worth that extra 10-20 million with tons of guaranteed money in the deal.

[Diehardpanther02]

Very incitful.... I'm glad we have posters like you that have a superior acumen for NFL talent and don't mind letting us know our QB is just as bad as he is good for our offense. Sure we are the first team to win back to back NFC South Division titles.....and yes we have gone to the playoffs in consecutive seasons for the first time in the history of the franchise but aside from all that.....Cam Sucks. Gotcha!!

Nah this doesnt mean you havent football acumen. If you think cam sucks please supply facts proving so. Good luck with that. He makes mistakes everyone does Russell threw 4 picks today and his team still won. No one with football knowledge or eye for talent will ever say he sucks. He can be inconsistent and i think thats the worse thing u can say about him. You can pull for Seattle if u want their accepting applications for fandom.

[cgarsmoker]

Nah this doesnt mean you havent football acumen. If you think cam sucks please supply facts proving so. Good luck with that. He makes mistakes everyone does Russell threw 4 picks today and his team still won. No one with football knowledge or eye for talent will ever say he sucks. He can be inconsistent and i think thats the worse thing u can say about him. You can pull for Seattle if u want their accepting applications for fandom.

Dude I'm huge Cam Fan....maybe I misread your original post.

[teeray]

Folks, arguing that Cam has not performed well at times because his supporting cast is bad is not a reason to assume he deserves to be rewarded with a big deal. You are saying that we do not know how good he can be yet--------what I have been saying for weeks. If they are still making comments like "inconsistent" and talking about his mechanics after 4 years, and they could have a deal done by now but don't, at some point, a little light will come on. Maybe the GM seeks a deal with Cam that will give the team an out should he not get better when surrounded with talent. Incentive-based. They are businessmen. They do not keep jobs by risking $100m because they are emotionally attached to a player. Bitch all you want, but the deal will protect the Panther's best interests in the event the OL, WRs, OC, were not the real reason for the inconsistency. It really blows my mind that everyone cannot see this. It is not a theory. It is the way good GMs operate, and I think we have one.

Since you put quotes around inconsistent can you point me to where the word "inconsistent" was used?

Also most of us argue that the offense hasn't performed well at times.

It is the people who try to lay that blame all on Cam's feet that we take issue with