A lot of people talk about Cam and his backfoot

[LelouchBritannia]

I think it's mostly a symptom of him always being ready to run if need be.  QBs that know they will never take off can use their legs differently than if they think there's a chance they'll take off and sprint.  Obviously you're going to set your feet differently taking off on a sprint than throwing.  I think Cam's "streakiness" with his feet is just him setting his feet right on plays he knows he's going to throw it with very little chance of taking off with the ball (e.g. quick slants or plays where he's going to throw it whether the target is technically open or not) and he mostly uses arm on plays where there's a greater chance of him having to take off with it (e.g. long developing plays where he's not sure someone's going to get open).

 

This is exactly what I am thinking. Remember at the beginning of the season when all the experts and fans raved about how Cam had finally taken the next step? Guess what, he couldn't physically run well. The second he was able to take off all of his bad mechanics returned and old(bad) Cam came back.

[IGSaint]

Idk how. I specifically posted him doing the right things for a reason. That should get your broken spirits up. Everybody knew Cam coming out of college he was super raw given college experience and system and people talking like 4 years is a long time when it's definitely not at all. 

 

My spirits not broken broken but I just don't see the need to talk about it before a huge game when we are supposed to be getting pumped up. I mean are we going to create a thread for how he misses some receivers too? 

[lightsout]

One of those things where he just has to recognize it and fix it. Until he can admit to himself that he needs to improve it, he won't. He knows he has a rocket for an arm and just relies on it. He still throws catchable balls while throwing all-arm, but he could greatly decrease the overthrows if he just kept his feet under him and stepped into the throw more often. I think part of it has to be him feeling the pressure and wanting to minimize the blow he knows is coming. Protecting himself. Perhaps our OL playing better will cause him to have a bit more faith when he hangs in the pocket. I don't think anybody can criticize the guy for at least staying in the pocket when the pressure is coming. It's just that the execution leaves a little to be desired consistently.

He'll fix it or he won't. As long as we're winning, it doesn't really bother me.

[IGSaint]

One of those things where he just has to recognize it and fix it. Until he can admit to himself that he needs to improve it, he won't. He knows he has a rocket for an arm and just relies on it. He still throws catchable balls while throwing all-arm, but he could greatly decrease the overthrows if he just kept his feet under him and stepped into the throw more often. I think part of it has to be him feeling the pressure and wanting to minimize the blow he knows is coming. Protecting himself. Perhaps our OL playing better will cause him to have a bit more faith when he hangs in the pocket. I don't think anybody can criticize the guy for at least staying in the pocket when the pressure is coming. It's just that the execution leaves a little to be desired consistently.

He'll fix it or he won't. As long as we're winning, it doesn't really bother me.

 

Cam has already admitted that his footwork wasn't good after the Cardinals game after the on field reporter asked him about it. He said it was something he would clean up over the week. 

[WhoAmI?]

Like somebody said earlier, Ken Dorsey is the wrong guy to have as a QB coach. It doesn't help either that we have a defensive minded only head coach and a sh*t for brains OC in Shula. This can be fixed, Cam just needs the proper QB coach or OC to reach a more consistent level. However, at this point after 4 years, I think we will just have accept that this is who he is and will have to live with it.

[CarolinaSamurai]

He also seems to forget his mechanics when he's over hyped or over thinking. He is his own worst enemy but I think he knows that and works to fix it. It's really hard to separate telling yourself to do something and being in the moment. Sure he's had 4 years but look at those years. These past two I've seen so much more growth as the team is catching up to him and he doesn't feel like he has to carry it all on himself as often,

[lightsout]

Cam has already admitted that his footwork wasn't good after the Cardinals game after the on field reporter asked him about it. He said it was something he would clean up over the week. 

Saying it in an interview is not the same as convincing yourself. Not saying he necessarily doesn't genuinely recognize the issue, as I think he does recognize it, but just saying until he fixes it and doesn't repeat the bad habit for most of his throws, I'm sticking with him not recognizing the issue enough to make his footwork be second nature by now.

[IGSaint]

Saying it in an interview is not the same as convincing yourself. Not saying he necessarily doesn't genuinely recognize the issue, as I think he does recognize it, but just saying until he fixes it and doesn't repeat the bad habit for most of his throws, I'm sticking with him not recognizing the issue enough to make his footwork be second nature by now.

 

Bad habits are bad habits for a reason.It can take years up years to fix bad habits relating to mechanics. it's not as easy as you're trying to make it. Cam knows it's something he needs to work on constantly. Do you really think Cam enjoys missing wide open guys for touchdowns? 

[CarolinaSamurai]

Bad habits are bad habits for a reason.It can take years up years to fix bad habits relating to mechanics. it's not as easy as you're trying to make it. Cam knows it's something he needs to work on constantly. Do you really think Cam enjoys missing wide open guys for touchdowns?

And sometimes thinking about it makes you do it more!!!! Think of a tick you do in life, tap your foot, crack your knuckles, scratching a nose or fave, coughing, licking your lips, anything. Tell me you don't want do it the more you think about it, it throws you off.

[GoobyPls]

Flacco and Rodgers throw a lot from there back foot, just saying....

[jtnc]

That wasn't a problem at the beginning of the season. His mechanics went to poo when he kept getting consistently sacked and they haven't returned since.

[Herbert is Sorry]

this thread is depressing me

[beastson]

I like your argument. I'm not sure if you're correct (I think you are) but I like the way you presented your stance.

It's an interesting point, all the same.

 

Im not saying they're not conscious that a QB has to keep his feet moving and step into throws. The coaches know that. Im saying he does it in practice. What you do in practice, happens in the game. On some of the throws, he'll nail it (KB technically did drop it, but it wasn't accurate). Then on some throws it'll be way off the mark, like the Dickson one. That's going to happen throwing like that

[IGSaint]

And sometimes thinking about it makes you do it more!!!! Think of a tick you do in life, tap your foot, crack your knuckles, scratching a nose or fave, coughing, licking your lips, anything. Tell me you don't want do it the more you think about it, it throws you off.

 

Exactly. A lot of bad habits are on the subconscious level where you don't even notice that you are doing them. As a QB, you have so many responsibilities that when you try to focus on correct footwork, you lost the split second needed to hit a receiver or move out of the pocket. As I said, Cam knows it's something he has to work on but it will take time before his footwork is on consistent on a subconscious level.