Hilarious post on Hawks message board...

[PhillyB]

probably trying to hide dat alice's body

[Beast Mode]

We just so happen to have a physical offense and probably an even more physical defense.

 

We ain't the Colts.

 

Neither are we.  

 

Being favored is one thing. The majority of their fans on that message board are delusional and are way past over-confident. I've seen score predictions of 34-7, 40-10, etc. But hey, I am happy with the Panthers being the underdogs. I feel we play better in those circumstances anyway. Excited to see how our team responds to playing in that atmosphere.

 

34-7, 40-10 is absolutely outlandish.  But that's also the nature of fan message boards.. the Seahawks don't blow teams out on the scoreboard as much as they do in the box score.  In other words, they may win 20-6 .. but the total yards will be 3:1 in favor of Seattle.   As far as underdogs and all that.. once Bobby Wagner hits someone in the chest, and Luke Kuechly hits someone in the chest.. all that underdog, "we have nothing to lose" fluff is out the window.  

 

We are basing our matchup preference based on the fact that 4 of the last 5 matchups have been great games and close scores.

Their predictions are based on complete ignorance and the fact that they are all douchebags.

 

The matchups in 2007 and 2010 have as much meaning as the 2005-06 NFC Championship game (i.e. zero) .. the last three games have indeed been close, defensive struggles, but they've also been in your house.  I know many Panther fans scoff at this notion, but it really is very difficult to play in Seattle.  Not to say it's IMPOSSIBLE for a team to win there, but it's very tough.  So that's where the predictions come from (unless it's 40-10, then that's just blind homerism). 

 

I love it. Everybody is writing us off against them. They're in for a rude awakening. And knowing those cocky douchebags in Seattle (the actual players and Pete), they'll be overlooking this team and doing some early preparing for the Cowboys/Packers. This is the most excited I've been for a Panthers game in over a decade.

 

If you're banking on the Seahawks coaching staff and players overlooking a team they have squeaked by on the road the last 3 years... I don't know what to tell you?  

[t96]

If you're banking on the Seahawks coaching staff and players overlooking a team they have squeaked by on the road the last 3 years... I don't know what to tell you?  

 

I'm not banking on anything. I don't bet on Panthers games.

[bigskypanthersguy]

Neither are we.  

 

 

Didn't say you were, and I typically don't have an issue with the 'Hawks.  I'm actually not all that far from Seattle and am planning on visiting in March, and win or lose I'll be in Panther gear in some way shape or form.

 

That said, we have four losses to avenge and I hope we pull it off.

[KBRed]

one guy is convinced i'm a phillyb that hates him from automotive forums. who uses automotive forums? who gets in feuds on automotive forums? do you bitch at each other about what battery kicks the most ass?

[Beast Mode]

i was hoping to get some insider info on the types of schemes and personnel packages we can expect, but i guess that's asking too much for the 80%ers that signed up last year and will disappear at the first sign of adversity.

 

for pure football knowledge this place really is one of the best in the nfl.

 

Defensively.. the Seahawks are as vanilla as it gets.  They play Cover 1 Man or Cover 3 all game.  When the Seahawks played the Panthers in October, they were down Byron Maxwell and Jeremy Lane and Kam Chancellor was playing at about 50 or 60% .. the team was also without Bobby Wagner and pressed into using UDFA Brock Coyle and KJ Wright at MLB (far, far cries from Wagner) so in this instance schematically they deviated a bit .. they had Sherman assigned to Kelvin Benjamin and let Simon/Marcus Burley handle the other side.  That wont be the case Saturday as the entire secondary is healthy, Bobby Wagner is healthy, Bruce Irvin has shined (Carolina game was kind of his launching point on the year) and supplanted Malcolm Smith in the lineup .. and the defense as a whole has been ridiculously good since their loss against the Chiefs.  In fact, statistically speaking, over the last 8 games they are playing at a better pace than they were last season when they dismembered the Broncos in the Super Bowl. 

 

But don't confuse "vanilla" for ineffective.  The simplicity is why they are so good.  They simply have premium talent across the board on defense, so they don't have to do anything exotic.  You will not see any crazy blitzing like the Cardinals just threw at you guys.  You may not see much blitzing at all to be honest.. especially with the game being at home, where the crowd noise will give the Seahawks front 4 a distinct advantage at getting pressure on Cam.  

 

Offensively .. really wish I could tell you what Darrell Bevell will cook up for Saturday, but often times he will seemingly confuse himself and get away from the meat and potatoes of this offense.  The Seahawks do a lot of zone read concepts from the shotgun, not as much from the pistol.. but it is there.  But the Seahawks offensive line has had some major issues with pass protection, so Bevell compensates by having Wilson play in the gun a bit more than most teams.. essentially to give him the opportunity to extend a play in the likely event one of the 5 linemen blow an assignment.  Make no bones about it though, the offense goes through Russell Wilson and Marshawn Lynch.  Robert Turbin will spell Lynch a few drives every game, and has been running much better of late.. but it's all Wilson and all Lynch.  The Seahawks passing game is almost like backyard football, in that Wilson will run around like his head is cut off until he finds an open man.. or he will just take off and run if all his WR's are covered.  Very seldom does he force a throw that could result in a pick, and very seldom will you see him take a clean shot from a defender.   Oh and the "no name WR's" you guys keep alluding to.. are Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse and rookie Paul Richardson.  You will also see Luke Willson and Tony Moeaki on the field .. Willson is a burner with 4.5 speed, but hands of stone (even though he did have the winning TD in October).  Moeaki was a great midseason pickup for the team and has brought a lot to the run blocking game and being a security blanket for Wilson when he's running a Chinese fire drill.  Far from the scariest group of receivers/tight ends you will see, but they get the job done.  Doug Baldwin especially has a knack for making some huge grabs at the biggest times of the game. 

 

Basically the best way to beat the Seahawks is to contain Wilson in the pocket, where he can still hurt you.. but is far less effective.  And to stuff the run, and snuff out the zone read.   Offensively you will have to put together long drives and take what Seattle gives you.  Even if the drive doesn't end in points but changes field position, that is a win against the Seahawks defense.  However, so many teams play Seattle and make a fatal mistake that takes a close game and turns it into a rout.  The Rams were hanging around in Week 17 before Bobby Wagner and Bruce Irvin teamed up to have a pick 6.  Then Earl Thomas forced a fumble at the one foot line that went out of bounds and was ruled a touchback.  Essentially, Carolina will have to play a perfect game on offense to go into Seattle and win.  Not impossible, but very very difficult. 

[KBRed]

All I saw was a vagina at the top center with an eye in the middle.

[MadHatter]

Neither are we.  

 

 

34-7, 40-10 is absolutely outlandish.  But that's also the nature of fan message boards.. the Seahawks don't blow teams out on the scoreboard as much as they do in the box score.  In other words, they may win 20-6 .. but the total yards will be 3:1 in favor of Seattle.   As far as underdogs and all that.. once Bobby Wagner hits someone in the chest, and Luke Kuechly hits someone in the chest.. all that underdog, "we have nothing to lose" fluff is out the window.  

 

 

The matchups in 2007 and 2010 have as much meaning as the 2005-06 NFC Championship game (i.e. zero) .. the last three games have indeed been close, defensive struggles, but they've also been in your house.  I know many Panther fans scoff at this notion, but it really is very difficult to play in Seattle.  Not to say it's IMPOSSIBLE for a team to win there, but it's very tough.  So that's where the predictions come from (unless it's 40-10, then that's just blind homerism). 

 

 

If you're banking on the Seahawks coaching staff and players overlooking a team they have squeaked by on the road the last 3 years... I don't know what to tell you?  

 

 

If you saw several of my other posts, you would see that I think that the Seahawks should and probably will win this game.  My comment was aimed more at the idiots on your board that think this game will be an extended bye week.

 

The Panthers and Hawks match up well against each other.  I expect a close game again with great defense and the team making the fewest mistakes winning.

[Montsta]

Are Bruce Irvin and Marshawn Lynch the two ugliest men in sports?

[MadHatter]

Defensively.. the Seahawks are as vanilla as it gets.  They play Cover 1 Man or Cover 3 all game.  When the Seahawks played the Panthers in October, they were down Byron Maxwell and Jeremy Lane and Kam Chancellor was playing at about 50 or 60% .. the team was also without Bobby Wagner and pressed into using UDFA Brock Coyle and KJ Wright at MLB (far, far cries from Wagner) so in this instance schematically they deviated a bit .. they had Sherman assigned to Kelvin Benjamin and let Simon/Marcus Burley handle the other side.  That wont be the case Saturday as the entire secondary is healthy, Bobby Wagner is healthy, Bruce Irvin has shined (Carolina game was kind of his launching point on the year) and supplanted Malcolm Smith in the lineup .. and the defense as a whole has been ridiculously good since their loss against the Chiefs.  In fact, statistically speaking, over the last 8 games they are playing at a better pace than they were last season when they dismembered the Broncos in the Super Bowl. 

 

But don't confuse "vanilla" for ineffective.  The simplicity is why they are so good.  They simply have premium talent across the board on defense, so they don't have to do anything exotic.  You will not see any crazy blitzing like the Cardinals just threw at you guys.  You may not see much blitzing at all to be honest.. especially with the game being at home, where the crowd noise will give the Seahawks front 4 a distinct advantage at getting pressure on Cam.  

 

Offensively .. really wish I could tell you what Darrell Bevell will cook up for Saturday, but often times he will seemingly confuse himself and get away from the meat and potatoes of this offense.  The Seahawks do a lot of zone read concepts from the shotgun, not as much from the pistol.. but it is there.  But the Seahawks offensive line has had some major issues with pass protection, so Bevell compensates by having Wilson play in the gun a bit more than most teams.. essentially to give him the opportunity to extend a play in the likely event one of the 5 linemen blow an assignment.  Make no bones about it though, the offense goes through Russell Wilson and Marshawn Lynch.  Robert Turbin will spell Lynch a few drives every game, and has been running much better of late.. but it's all Wilson and all Lynch.  The Seahawks passing game is almost like backyard football, in that Wilson will run around like his head is cut off until he finds an open man.. or he will just take off and run if all his WR's are covered.  Very seldom does he force a throw that could result in a pick, and very seldom will you see him take a clean shot from a defender.  

 

Basically the best way to beat the Seahawks is to contain Wilson in the pocket, where he can still hurt you.. but is far less effective.  And to stuff the run, and snuff out the zone read.   Offensively you will have to put together long drives and take what Seattle gives you.  Even if the drive doesn't end in points but changes field position, that is a win against the Seahawks defense.  However, so many teams play Seattle and make a fatal mistake that takes a close game and turns it into a rout.  The Rams were hanging around in Week 17 before Bobby Wagner and Bruce Irvin teamed up to have a pick 6.  Then Earl Thomas forced a fumble at the one foot line that went out of bounds and was ruled a touchback.  Essentially, Carolina will have to play a perfect game on offense to go into Seattle and win.  Not impossible, but very very difficult. 

 

The fact is that you can change the team and players names in your analysis to those on Carolina and the analysis would still hold true.

 

Our defense is on fire right now and the offense is inconsistent at times.  We are now causing turnovers and converting them into points. 

 

If the Hawks offense makes a fatal mistake, the Panthers D will turn it into points.

 

Fact is that these two teams are more closely alike and are a great matchup than most people know or want to admit.

[Beast Mode]

The winner of this game wi score under 20.

Defense travels.

 

I have the game as 20-6 Seahawks .. so.. pretty close line of thinking.  

 

Going to be fun to see the two best linebackers in the game go at it.  Kuechly and Bobby Wagner are nasty individuals. 

[MadHatter]

I have the game as 20-6 Seahawks .. so.. pretty close line of thinking.  

 

Going to be fun to see the two best linebackers in the game go at it.  Kuechly and Bobby Wagner are nasty individuals. 

 

No way this is a double digit win....we are scoring 27 a game over the past 6.

 

Not to mention that our defense is giving up under 13 a game for the past 6 games.....and your offense is struggling to score TD's with 3 of the past 6 home games only garnering one....and two games with 2 TD's. 

 

Offensive juggarnaut the Seahawks are NOT.

 

You just showed your true homer self thinking a 14 pt win.

[Beast Mode]

This article is from the week leading up to the Super Bowl.. but for those really interested in the way the Seahawks defense runs.. it's a very nice read. 

 

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/1/29/5355360/super-bowl-xlviii-seahawks-defense-richard-sherman-earl-thomas-covering-peyton-manning

 

 

[MadHatter]

This article is from the week leading up to the Super Bowl.. but for those really interested in the way the Seahawks defense runs.. it's a very nice read. 

 

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/1/29/5355360/super-bowl-xlviii-seahawks-defense-richard-sherman-earl-thomas-covering-peyton-manning

 

I will be sure to print it out and put it to good use.....I did have Mexican for lunch and am working on a poo worthy of a Seahawks analysis.