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"He's the most athletic Quarterback... Ever"


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Better than Vick yes, better than RGIII when healthy?! Debatable

RG3!?! Lol! He's a good talent not great. He doesn't belong in the conversation anymore. Cam is an old-school single wing QB. The guy could have played a number of positions on the field but he just happens to be a good/great QB, a big guy who has a big arm, pretty accurate passer, is elusive running the ball and can BREAK TACKLES for big yardage. RG3 couldn't break a tackle to save his life or I just haven't seen him do it.

Cam>>>Vick>RG3

Cam=Luck IMO once you add it all up this is a speacial player

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I think this all ties into the age old argument of who is a better athlete: a sprinter or a decathlete?  Decathlons are certainly not very prestigious these days, nor are they aired often.  I'd argue a decathlete is a better athlete, because it requires speed, stamina, strength and explosiveness.  Sure a pure sprinter will beat the decathlete in every sprint, but the decathlete is going to crush a sprinter in every other event.

However I'm also one of those guys who considers Big Ben to be a good athlete.

 

True/good points.

 

However, in fairness, they're are some speed type guys who make overall great athletes. You never know which ones.

 

Renaldo Skeets Nehemiah, formerly of the San Fran 49ers, and a world class, Olympic gold medalist sprinter, routinely won or competed very well in the superstars show, if you know or remember it. He was 6'1" 181 lbs.

 

That show would try to determine the mythical "best overall professional athlete" from various sports.

 

And we also have to remember, we can have fast guys/sprinter types in track, that are built like NFL running backs (as many of them do have a track, sprint background), who can compete well in strength and endurance events.

 

Saying all that: You're right. It was usually the bulkier athletes (though not always) who appeared to excel in the Superstars than the pure skinny ones, cause there always seemed to be some big guys that were almost as fast. However, the smaller guys never appeared as competitive in the strength events.

 

It was a good show. And it was always curious to see which events, certain athletes cleaned up on (strength, speed, endurance, skill, swimming, rowing, or the daunting obstacle course at the end, etc.)?

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Semantics. We define athleticism differently.

 

Well no offense, but you have an extremely narrow view of athleticism then.  Seems like you're just trying to be stubborn and difficult more than anything.

 

A person's overall athleticism is a combination of all his athletic traits.  Not just speed.

 

RG3 and Vick beat Cam in speed.

 

Cam beats them in size, strength, body control, elusiveness (prime Vick probably has the edge here as well), and in my opinion, reaction time.

 

It's Cam's size at which he does these things that puts him over them as an overall athlete.  Much like FootballMaestro said about LeBron.  LeBron isn't considered one of the most freakish athletes ever (and definitely currently around) because of he's the fastest, strongest, biggest, etc, because he's not.  It's the combination of all of his traits that makes him such an outstanding athlete.

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Guys, Robert Griffin really isn't that athletic relative to the rest of the NFL. He's just straight-line fast. Poor change of direction. Not strong.

Newton has more athleticism than RG3. Michael Vick is the only QB historically I would say was more athletic than Newton. Kaepernick isn't too far behind but he still lacks the COD and power of Cam (Vick lacked power but he was by far the most agile). Maybe Cunningham. He was fantastic.

exactly this. Agility, size, and strength need to be considered along with speed.

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Well no offense, but you have an extremely narrow view of athleticism then. Seems like you're just trying to be stubborn and difficult more than anything.

A person's overall athleticism is a combination of all his athletic traits. Not just speed.

RG3 and Vick beat Cam in speed.

Cam beats them in size, strength, body control, elusiveness (prime Vick probably has the edge here as well), and in my opinion, reaction time.

It's Cam's size at which he does these things that puts him over them as an overall athlete. Much like FootballMaestro said about LeBron. LeBron isn't considered one of the most freakish athletes ever (and definitely currently around) because of he's the fastest, strongest, biggest, etc, because he's not. It's the combination of all of his traits that makes him such an outstanding athlete.

Part of why I define things as I do is because way too many people today assume that 'great athlete' equates to 'great quarterback', and that's not accurate.

Heck, 'great athlete' doesn't necessarily even mean 'great football player'.

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I may be the only one on this, while also being a believer in cam. This game should be put on his shoulders, the big games should rely on your all pro qb to get the job done. Although it doesnt discount the fact it is a team sport and we have to have a collective effort from everyone to get the W. But cam has yet another opportunity to prove he is a big time player. And if he can do this it will go along way in proving that, if not, well you know where losing gets you. I love cam, but i wanna see him

Become what we expect, and he expects, and i think he is, a born winner. I dont think kriegel is that far off base.

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Cam Newton and Randall Cunningham are the two most well rounded athletic QBs ever. The important part there is well rounded. They can run well and pass well. I'm not talking about having scrambling ability or a QB who runs every now and then. I mean they could run and put up numbers like a RB, but also pass like one of the top QBs.

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Better than Vick yes, better than RGIII when healthy?! Debatable

RGIII sucks. He wasn't impressive his rookie year. Was a one read gimmick QB....who heavily threw to the line of scrimmage and he same TE route.

Best offensive rookie was Morris on that squad IMO.

Vick likely was a better pure athlete than Cam. RGIII was just a track guy...he has always seemed a tad awkward to me. Which is why he runs to contact and struggles juking away from it (dating back to college).

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