OK, time to decrease expectations.

[Snake]

We are gonna take our lumps on Defense this year simply because we are installing a new system. Dont expect greatness right away. The offense should do well though.

[Cat'sGrowl]

Detroit went 4-0 in the preseason last year.

Indy went 0-4 in the preseason the year they started out 14-0.

I'd say it's not quite time to jump ship.

[Jackofalltrades]

The Steelers looked like garbage las t preseason and had the touhest schedule in the NFL and their season went alright.

It's the ducking preseason for Christ's sake, chill the hell out.

[Gman was right]

I have to admit that I was somewhat pessimistic about this season, although it has nothing to do with preseason performance. But if you are picking against us, then that actually gives me some confidence that we will be better than I thought we would.

Maybe you're right. I predicted that we would win 10 games last year and we won 12. Im predicting 7-9 so maybe they'll win 8 or 9. Not likely, because of our schedule and our crappy defense. But you never know....

[John Fox]

The Steelers looked like garbage las t preseason and had the touhest schedule in the NFL and their season went alright.

It's the ducking preseason for Christ's sake, chill the hell out.

Pittsburgh went 3-1 last preseason

also gmans a ***

[goodlay]

Pittsburgh went 3-1 last preseason

also gmans a ***

I can't take pre-season records realistically after we went 4-0 in the pre-season and proceeded to go 1-15 in the regular season in 2001.

[Jangler]

Captain Morgan kicked my ass last night.

[pstall]

I don't look at preseason records as much as I'm looking at guys who are fighting for a roster spot and guys who should be #1's but aren't and how do they do against other teams #1's.

[Woodcookedbbq]

Problem is we have absolutely no depth anywhere, except maybe RB.

[panthers55]

Problem is we have absolutely no depth anywhere, except maybe RB.

Don't see how that is true. We have great depth at linebacker, DE, corner and safety. On the offense we have good depth at receiver, running back, quarterback. On special teams we have depth at field goal kicker and returner.

DT and the offensive line are suspect but otherwise we have plenty of guys who will compete. You could argue we don't have a lot of veteran experienced depth at several positions but many teams face the same reality in the current free agent system.

[Gman was right]

Don't see how that is true. We have great depth at linebacker, DE, corner and safety. On the offense we have good depth at receiver, running back, quarterback. On special teams we have depth at field goal kicker and returner.

DT and the offensive line are suspect but otherwise we have plenty of guys who will compete. You could argue we don't have a lot of veteran experienced depth at several positions but many teams face the same reality in the current free agent system.

Im with you on LB, RB, DE and maybe CB. Other than that I totally disagree especially at WR and QB. Mccown is terrible and Moore has shown us nothing! We have Steve Smith at WR and thats pretty much it. Moose is 36 and will not have anything close to the season he had last year. After that we have a bunch of unknowns with Jarrett (who is a disapointment so far), Kenneth Moore, and Rhyne Robinson. Safety isnt really all that deep either. Dante Wesley is making the switch back to the position which he hasnt played in 10 years. I dont feel comfortable at all if Godfrey or Harris goes down.

[thennek]

I don't really care what the Panthers pre-season record is. My concern is how the Panther's defense really dropped the last 4-5 games last season, and they basically have the same guys coming back. The Panthers have not replaced Jenkins yet. They need a young, aggressive, DT to help solidy the interior of the d-line which is definitely the weak point of this team. Even with Kemo, I think the d-line (specifically the interior) was a big question mark coming from last season. The 'front 4' used to be the strength of this team and now it is a weakness. This has nothing to do with preseason...it is leftover from last season. Perhaps a 'new scheme' will help change this, but I have my doubts.

[CRA]

Don't see how that is true. We have great depth at linebacker, DE, corner and safety. On the offense we have good depth at receiver, running back, quarterback. On special teams we have depth at field goal kicker and returner.

DT and the offensive line are suspect but otherwise we have plenty of guys who will compete. You could argue we don't have a lot of veteran experienced depth at several positions but many teams face the same reality in the current free agent system.

I don't no if you can add safety to that list. Right now, the S spot is an area of concern. Chris Harris is it.......and he can only reallly be counted on in run support.

[jasonluckydog]

Wait until the 3rd preseason game before I jump off the bridge still wayyyyyy toooo early to freak the fug out.