The Nightmare Scenario

[ThPantherFan]

So if the Panthers December performance turns out to be not good enough to get us to the playoffs but good enough that it saves the jobs of most - or even all - of the coaching staff, how do you expect you'll react?

 

If we don't make the playoffs many of the coaching positions will change.  Not necessarily RR but the rest with exception to Prohel.  Can't guarantee Shula even if we make the playoffs.

[magnus]

So if the Panthers December performance turns out to be not good enough to get us to the playoffs but good enough that it saves the jobs of most - or even all - of the coaching staff, how do you expect you'll react?

I don't fear the staff staying. I don't 'fear', but do worry, about lucking into the right OT, making the correct hard choices against the cap, regaining a good pass rush and defensive dominance. 

 

When I think of nightmare scenarios, I dig into the past for things like a player being arrested for murder and a former player being murdered within the same year.  I think about a beloved coach/player dying of cancer.  Hell, Cam having been in a car accident is a shitload worse than wondering how much no-huddle Shula would let Cam run (or based on viewpoint, how much Rivera would let Shula run). 

[Rise of The Hive]

Ron better not start losing end of season games now!

[SteveSmithGaveMeAShiner]

You forget any context here.  We didn't struggle in 2011.  We went from a team that went 2-14 and was devoid of talent except for a few veterans and improved to 6-10 after losing a bunch of close games. We had a rookie quarterback, a new system, and no off-season to practice.

in 2012 we did struggle when Chud went crazy with the read option and didn't allow Cam to actually run the offense.  When we returned to some sort of sanity we had a late season run.

 

Obviously 2013 needs no comment but this year does,  If we had paid Gross and Wharton (which is why they retired)  Mitchell and gotten a good corner in free agency, we would not have struggled even with Cams injuries and slow start.  I know that everyone blames Rivera but honestly every year the coaches have to start over teaching guys the basics because we end up starting projects, UDFAs and rookies in starting or at least contributing roles.  I bet there is a inverse relationship between number of wins and number of rookies you are starting..

 

Given the lack of personnel consistency among the players it is no surprise that our wins totals have also been inconsistent. 

 

Serious question: are you aware of the salary cap?

[Killa Cam 69]

At this point we need to be worried about building the Oline and wr core.. If we happen to sneak into the playoffs so be it ...now adays drafts are so deep draft position isn't as huge as it Once was

[Killa Cam 69]

Rogers has to go for sure regardless

[R0CKnR0LLA]

While I'd prefer to clean out the entire coaching staff and start fresh, I can deal with another year of Ron and McD. I will be pretty pissed though if I have to put up with more Shula ball. He needs to go, I don't care what happens the rest of the season.

[pantherfan49]

We were fuged when we tied up 13 mil or whatever in a player that has seen the field once this year.

Not only did we lose Hardy, but we lost our on all those other players we couldn't keep/get because of Hardy. That is the true nightmare scenario.

[thefuzz]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/schedule/_/name/car/carolina-panthers

 

I think that some of you who are OK with the coaching staff coming back need to take another look at that link.

 

 

We have beaten:

 

Detroit

 

Tampa X 2

 

Chicago

 

New Orleans

 

 

Seriously, look at that schedule, and our "wins" this year.

 

 

 

[TheRumGone]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/schedule/_/name/car/carolina-panthers

 

I think that some of you who are OK with the coaching staff coming back need to take another look at that link.

 

 

We have beaten:

 

Detroit

 

Tampa X 2

 

Chicago

 

New Orleans

 

 

Seriously, look at that schedule, and our "wins" this year.

 

and every year rivera says it's a process and "we have young guys that needed to grow"

[thefuzz]

and every year rivera says it's a process and "we have young guys that needed to grow"

 

Yup.

 

 

Ever year, it's the same damn story.

 

RR can't compete with "good" teams.  I don't have time to do it, but I would be very curious what RR's record is against teams with a winning record.

[BigBoss]

It shocks me SO many are fine with the return of Ron Rivera. WOW memory is short.

 

Remember that 7 game stretch where we continued to get blown out and didnt even compete, including by the vikings? Remember both Falcons and Bengals when Ron opted to play it ultra safe insteand of going for the win, and we didn't win either game.

 

Remember when a meger 8-8 could have won us the divison two years in a row and now can't even get that?

 

It is only because our division is so rancid can we even win the south but we still are depending on other teams to lose just so we can maybe win it.

 

 

 

"Oh but wouldn't it be worth Ron sticking around if he leads us to the Super bowl!!!!!!!???!?!?!?!??"

 

Oh gee, ya sure that would be great. And tell me, how long are you wiling to wait for that to happen? At what point is enough enough? 4 years and 1 playoff? Blatant regression by the ENTIRE coaching staff (don't dare pin it all on Mike Shula). Wanna be like the Bungals, wait 10 years for nothing at all?

 

I've seen plenty already to know that Ron does not have the knowledge or ability to lead us to the Super Bowl.

[ENC Pantherfan]

As long is Shula is fired I'll be fine

[FootballMaestro]

Wow!

 

It appears many here are not hard to please.

 

A potential pseudo playoff run (2 consecutive wins) in a dismal division, after repeated abject failure this season, and many Huddler's are ready to forgive and welcome Ron back for next year; especially if Shula's gone.

 

SMH