Worserer than the Ebola!

[Cat]

No thanks. Haven't had the flu for 20 years and I really don't like getting injected with poo I don't need. Just my nature. I haven't known anyone with the flu bad enough to go to the doctor but I have personally witnessed someone have a horrible reaction to the shot.

Coincidence...maybe but again in not letting anyone from Target inject me with anything lol.

If I get sick or die due to the flu, it's ok, I accept that, I'm perfectly ok with it.

 

 

I had an ex coworker get the flu, she was in her 40's she ended up in a coma, almost died and lost her toes. 

[Cat]

Flu shots are prepared with 3 strains of the flu based on epidemiological projections from up to a year prior. While the estimations are usually fairly accurate, they're really just guessing as to which strains will be the most common and the effectiveness of the vaccine can vary greatly from year to year.

 

You're either 60-70% less likely to get the flu with the shot. Those are good odds. The flu sucks. My husband got it 4 years ago, he didn't leave the bedroom for a week. My son and I had our flu shots. We were fine, he's gotten the flu shot since then every year. 

 

Most people I know that don't get the shot are just sissy about needles. 

[Jase]

And people want to know why health care costs are out of control:

* ER trips because your kid has the sniffles

* hospital beds filled with flu patients

 

Seriously? Here's some Zyrtec or Zycam or a Z-Pack or whatever. Gome home and rest.

 

I don't think they give just anyone with the flu a hospital bed.  Probably the greatest at risk (the elderly, the very young, those with respiratory issues) are the ones being admitted. 36k US deaths per year is nothing to sneeze at.

[Jase]

I don't know if you guys have heard of this, but my wife did a paper on the spanish influenza in college.  Only killed about 3-5% of the world in 1918.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic

[bigdog10]

The only time I have ever had the flu is the same year I got the flu shot. I will never get another.

[Captroop]

The amount of misinformation surrounding the flu and the flu vaccine is just staggering. Influenza is not the same as a cold, and the proverbial "flu shot" is not trying to prevent the common cold. So stop saying, "I got the flu" when you get a stuffy nose. Only the live virus (nasal spray) is really not recommended for people with egg allergies, as it's a live virus cultured in chicken embryos. The inactive virus has trace amounts of egg protein, but is not likely to kill you or even adversely affect you if you have chicken allergies.

 

I'd like to spend time correcting everyone with misconceptions, but if someone is willing to be a vector for spreading a virus, and is willing to risk dying from a very preventable disease because they were to lazy to do the research themselves, well then that's none of my business:

[KSpan]

You're either 60-70% less likely to get the flu with the shot. Those are good odds. The flu sucks. My husband got it 4 years ago, he didn't leave the bedroom for a week. My son and I had our flu shots. We were fine, he's gotten the flu shot since then every year.

Most people I know that don't get the shot are just sissy about needles.

The odds are often near that, yes. But not always. I work in clinical development, directly with next-gen flu vaccines in some cases. From a CDC publication:

During that year, the prevalence of vaccination among the influenza-positive case subjects did not differ significantly from that among the test-negative controls, and VE was not documented.

http://m.jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/199/2/155.full

Generally, yes, the vaccine is at least a bit helpful. For various reasons, however, that doesn't mean the strains utilized aren't selected via what is essentially an informed crap shoot.

[Scrumtrilescent]

I heard the flu shot makes you sterile.  And that it is a mind control vector.  Also, it is supposed to contain a tracking device.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Scot]

Have you been having dreams of an old black woman in Nebraska or a biker dude in Las Vegas?

[shreddingdefense]

I'm never getting a flu shot. Why? If you saw what happened to my dad and that the flue shot most likely was the cause of it you might not consider it again.

He woke up one day unable to move except his neck. Had to go through blood dialysis, feeding tube (throat closed) and be hooked up to a ventilator. 3 years, still in a wheelchair yet his muscles are slowing coming back. Will not be the same person again if he is able to walk around and do what he normal could do. Luckly on disabilities.  Google guillain-barré syndrome.

[Captroop]

I'm never getting a flu shot. Why? If you saw what happened to my dad and that the flue shot most likely was the cause of it you might not consider it again.

He woke up one day unable to move except his neck. Had to go through blood dialysis, feeding tube (throat closed) and be hooked up to a ventilator. 3 years, still in a wheelchair yet his muscles are slowing coming back. Will not be the same person again if he is able to walk around and do what he normal could do. Luckly on disabilities.  Google guillain-barré syndrome.

 

Not it wasn't. It's extremely rare, and studies have repeatedly shown that GBS diagnoses remain stable regardless of seasonal flu vaccination or not.

 

You can't trust assertions made by Web sites that include a tag line that boasts it publishes information "Other Media Sources and the Health Establishments Censor!"

[shreddingdefense]

Not it wasn't. It's extremely rare, and studies have repeatedly shown that GBS diagnoses remain stable regardless of seasonal flu vaccination or not.

 

You can't trust assertions made by Web sites that include a tag line that boasts it publishes information "Other Media Sources and the Health Establishments Censor!"

 

I didn't need a website when the doctors looked at us when he almost died on chrstimas and said that it was more than likely the flu shot that gave it to him. At that time the swine flu vaccine was being put in it.  Rare or not. There has to be something to it if he can no longer get a flu shot and the paper you fill out has, "has you or anyone in your family had gbs?" . In any case,  unless you have seen someone paralysed or had it yourself you can't say for certain if you would get a flu shot or not.

[pstall]

I get the part about it basically protecting others but if you get part of the virus itself(from the shot)and then are near others who didn't get a shot aren't you now putting people at risk?

[Captroop]

I get the part about it basically protecting others but if you get part of the virus itself(from the shot)and then are near others who didn't get a shot aren't you now putting people at risk?

 

 

No. You cannot transmit the influenza virus from a vaccination the same way you cannot contract it from a vaccination. The virus in the shot is DEAD. It is not a live virus. It is "deactivated" cannot spread.

 

And the nose spray is a cold-attenuated virus, meaning it is cultured to survive in cold temperatures only. Inside your 98 degree body, it is incapacitated and similarly cannot spread.

 

 

 

You cannot, I repeat CANNOT catch the influenza virus from a vaccination! Nor can you transmit it to others. In every case, it is a virus that cannot propogate in the human body.