Cam's First Facebook Post Since the Accident

[Panthro]

That said, I've never had a near death experience so I can't put myself into that person's shoes.

 

A friend of mine had a massive heart attack five years ago. He needed open heart surgery and his chances of surviving were less than 3%. He is still here to this day, and after that day and several surgeries later, he is now much more religious and believes he only made it due to God.

 

 

cool story bro

My father and grandfather had crazy out of body experiences. 

 

My father drowned on a lake and felt a warmth envelop him. He looked down and saw everyone running aroun dlooking for him. Saw him mother drop t her knees and pray and saw his brother swim in aftyer him.My grandfather apparently floated down the hallway from the operating room (he was flatlining) and recalled the dicsussion being had basically another floor away. He says he was looking for a cup of coffee.

 

They are and were both church goers but nothing over the top and still to this day my dad attends services and is religious but not over the top. 

[Plewis]

He writes like he's a 14 year old girl.

[Proudiddy]

Well...

 

This thread went well.

 

 

[TheWiz]

 

Superstition is the belief in supernatural causality—that one event causes another without any natural process linking the two events—such as astrology, religion, omens, witchcraft, prophecies, etc., that contradicts natural science.

 

you are choosing to be offended by the dictionary definition of a superstition.

 

 

There are actually multiple definitions of superstition and some of them do not include religion.... such as this one from Dictionary.com

 

1. a belief or notion, not based on reason or knowledge, in or of the ominous significance of a particular thing, circumstance, occurrence, proceeding, or the like.

2. a system or collection of such beliefs

3. a custom or act based on such a belief

4. irrational fear of what is unknown or mysterious, especially in connection with religion.

5. any blindly accepted belief or notion

 

Definitions can be amended, changed and evolve throughout history and are applied through the context of the culture.

 

There is a common belief among atheists and other non-believers that because a religious belief is not accessible to the scientific method, that it makes that belief false. That cannot be further from the truth. There are many beliefs that are held by believers and non-believers alike... that cannot be proven by scientific measures because Science actually lacks the tools to measure them. It is like trying to measure the universe with a measuring tape. The measuring tape is good for what it is good for... But often the science community and the non believing community don't like to admit where their tools fail. Just because something cannot be explained by science doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. It just means that the weight of certain supernatural questions are too heavy for the science scale to register the data.

 

What is unfortunate is that there are a lot of non-believers/ atheists who take what is a blind-spot for science and apply it as a strength. (The same can be said of believers who oppose everything scientific.) This is why some of their ideas are self-elevated and they tend to imply that they have a particular intellectual superiority over those who believe.

 

Now just so you know this is relevant....

 

Some of the most superstitious people on the entire planet are sports fans. And some of the most panicky, irrational fans in any sports franchise happen to be fans of the Carolina Panthers. And where do those fans go to express their worrisome ways... whether or not they are based on truth or not.... you guessed it.... (Shout out to J-IGO)

 

Part of believing in God is believing in someone greater than you... for a greater purpose... holding you to a greater standard. Be glad that we a QB who happens to believe in something bigger and greater than himself. In a time where football players are being charged with rape, violence, drug abuse, and all sorts of immoral behavior... maybe they need a little (or a lot) of God right now. (yes Im aware that believing in God doesn't stop you from doing illegal, immoral acts, Im just pointing out that Cam's belief in God shapes particular aspects of his life.)

 

#keeppounding

 

(edited for grammar and brevity ... lol)

[run1stdownrun2nddown]

There are actually multiple definitions of superstition and some of them do not include religion.... such as this one from Dictionary.com

 

1. a belief or notion, not based on reason or knowledge, in or of the ominous significance of a particular thing, circumstance, occurrence, proceeding, or the like.

2. a system or collection of such beliefs

3. a custom or act based on such a belief

4. irrational fear of what is unknown or mysterious, especially in connection with religion.

5. any blindly accepted belief or notion

 

Definitions can be amended, changed and evolve throughout history and are applied through the context of the culture.

 

There is a common belief among atheists and other non-believers that because a religious belief is not accessible to the scientific method, that it makes that belief false. That cannot be further from the truth. There are many beliefs that are held by believers and non-believers alike... that cannot be proven by scientific measures because Science actually lacks the tools to measure them. It is like trying to measure the universe with a measuring tape. The measuring tape is good for what it is good for... But often the science community and the non believing community don't like to admit where their tools fail. Just because something cannot be explained by science doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. It just means that the weight of certain supernatural questions are too heavy for the science scale to register the data.

 

What is unfortunate is that there are a lot of non-believers/ atheists who take what is a blind-spot for science and apply it as a strength. (The same can be said of believers who oppose everything scientific.) This is why some of their ideas are self-elevated and they tend to imply that they have a particular intellectual superiority over those who believe.

 

Now just so you know this is relevant....

 

Some of the most superstitious people on the entire planet are sports fans. And some of the most panicky, irrational fans in any sports franchise happen to be fans of the Carolina Panthers. And where do those fans go to express their worrisome ways... whether or not they are based on truth or not.... you guessed it.... (Shout out to J-IGO)

 

Part of believing in God is believing in someone greater than you... for a greater purpose... holding you to a greater standard. Be glad that we a QB who happens to believe in something bigger and greater than himself. In a time where football players are being charged with rape, violence, drug abuse, and all sorts of immoral behavior... maybe they need a little (or a lot) of God right now. (yes Im aware that believing in God doesn't stop you from doing illegal, immoral acts, Im just pointing out that Cam's belief in God shapes particular aspects of his life.)

 

#keeppounding

 

The big difference there is science will continue to advance and fill in the "blind spots." Meanwhile religion will try to explain those blind spots the exact same way they did thousands of years ago. On a long enough time scale, science WILL explain all of them, and religion will have what? Absolutely nothing.

 

And don't get me started on the whole "without God people would have no moral compass," I don't need some invisible person floating in the clouds to know it is wrong to steal or hurt somebody. I am capable of holding myself to a higher standard, although perhaps some people aren't.

[Hammerin'Cameron34]

Everything happens for a reason you could die in a car crash or simply die sleeping, God has the control, if you aren't meant to die you simply won't no matter how bad the circumstances

[Semaj]

Once again I will say, wth is wrong with people? This is a fine young man who always tries his best to do things right. He is a Christian and has a strong faith in God. Very well spoken post on Facebook. He is full of humanity and I believe cares about others and we are so lucky to have him as our qb. Let's sign this young man for the long term this off season. Get healed up Cam.

[Semaj]

As a guy sitting in the Hampton Inn at Duke awaiting treatment for prostate cancer I can easily tell you that what Cam said was spot on. Don't take a damn thing in life for granted.

Prayers for you brother. Get well quickly.

[mbarbour21]

I wonder how many of these Christian folks would be reacting if Cam was praising Allah and Philly said the same thing that he did.

I imagine it would be something like, "DA should be our starter."

So glad that Cam came out of this the way that he did. He was very fortunate.

I'd probably react the same way. lol!

I understand that everyone doesn't believe the same. They also don't see things the same way. Which is why you will see people offended by things that are said with different intentions. Even if philly meant no harm, he doesn't see things the same way others do. When I say I believe God is real and there is no way He isn't, many would see this as arrogant. Because I believe I am right which says I believe everyone else is wrong. But that's my belief. Why would I believe something if I didn't believe it was true. Then it wouldn't be my belief.....cuz I don't really believe it. Haha! Same with philly, he thinks it's silly. Of course he believes it's wrong, that's his belief. He has a right to believe it. I just think people didn't like him commenting about Cam's belief, since it's accuracy had no bearing on the topic at hand.

[TheWiz]

The big difference there is science will continue to advance and fill in the "blind spots." Meanwhile religion will try to explain those blind spots the exact same way they did thousands of years ago. On a long enough time scale, science WILL explain all of them, and religion will have what? Absolutely nothing.

 

And don't get me started on the whole "without God people would have no moral compass," I don't need some invisible person floating in the clouds to know it is wrong to steal or hurt somebody. I am capable of holding myself to a higher standard, although perhaps some people aren't.

 

Also not entirely true... Science is now a multi-billion dollar industry. There are many different aspects of "so-called science." Science is over-politicized and its a foolish assumption to believe that religious people are opposed to science or at odds with science. For many religious people... science is used as a means to validate what they already believe what they claim to have already experienced. You don't have to NOT believe in God to accept scientific facts. To say that "Science WILL" do something is more a statement of faith than it is a statement of fact. And that's ok to believe that... Just recognize you believe it.

 

For many, science is used to further their already perceived worldview... believers and non-believers alike. Research can bring us a cure for cancer... but it can also create a disease for biological warfare. (Ask the FDA.) The point is... science can be used to bring about intended means... not just objective data. 

 

We can say the same thing about History... the data can be skewed based upon whose telling the story... or based upon the story they want you to know.

 

It also happens in football.... The general public has a perception of Cam Newton as a QB and as a human being. If you got all of your information from ESPN, then you'll have one view of him. But there are those of us who have another view... based upon having a variety of sources to come to a conclusion... (other networks, watching games, The Huddle, past experience of his success in different situations.)

 

Diversify your bonds.  

[PandaPancake]

I assume you are referring to Islam or at least one of the "big 3". If those terrorists were to adhere to the full teachings of their faith they would cherish life as a sacred and precious thing. Man perverts even the purest of things. We are all capable of unspeakable acts of evil and miraculous gestures of love, it's up to the individual. Free will can be a bear.

Ha! The Quran would never call Jewish people and Christians all children of Allah. Or even mention Jesus let's say 72 times

Just to note all three commit horrible crimes against each other. I just know more about Islam from a former career and I like banging Persian women

[Dexterity]

I wonder how many of these Christian folks would be reacting if Cam was praising Allah and Philly said the same thing that he did.

I imagine it would be something like, "DA should be our starter."

So glad that Cam came out of this the way that he did. He was very fortunate.

I'm not Christian, or religious at all, and I wouldve still responded the same. His blabbering about religion is no different than a homophobe spouting off about homosexuality. They're both being intolerant, and frankly, quite stupid.

Live and let live.

[L-TownCat]

Ha! The Quran would never call Jewish people and Christians all children of Allah. Or even mention Jesus let's say 72 times

Just to note all three commit horrible crimes against each other. I just know more about Islam from a former career and I like banging Persian women

 

Maybe, mabe not.  I've never had the opportunity to discuss this with an Imam or a practicing Muslim for that matter.  I don't adhere to their texts.  As a man of faith I hope and pray all religions are peaceful.  I am a follower of Christ and his teachings of which I do know, and violence committed in his name is false and impossible.

 

Matthew 5:9

Aramaic Bible in Plain English

But I am saying to you, you shall not rise up against an evil person, but whoever strikes you on your right cheek, turn to him also the other.

 

 

“Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness…. What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you? You want something but don’t get it. You kill and covet, but you cannot have what you want. You quarrel and fight. You do not have, because you do not ask God.”

[CarolinaCoolin]

not trolling. it's not much different than attributing victory in a football game to god's favor… it's not intended as arrogance, and therefore isn't reflective of an arrogant person, but it is pretty silly when you think about it… isn't god blessing you with victory a curse of defeat (or ignoring the prayers for victory) for the other team? i think we went through this with teb0w a few years back and everyone got all huffy then, too. not a criticism of the person, only of the rationality of the belief.

apologies to anyone who was offended, but really, get a grip.

lol you are smarter than that Philly. You knew exactly what you were doing when you posted that and you knew what type of reaction you were going to get from people. Especially bringing up something like that out of the tinderbox.