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Cam's First Facebook Post Since the Accident

Proudiddy

By Proudiddy,
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PhillyB Grand Master

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It would be his beliefs... him would be cam. You didn't poo on Cam. Just called his beliefs superstition. That's pretty offensive man. That can be your opinion, but please only share it when asked. This is the Panthers forum, not a phillybs take on religion forum.

 

Superstition is the belief in supernatural causality—that one event causes another without any natural process linking the two events—such as astrology, religion, omens, witchcraft, prophecies, etc., that contradicts natural science.
 
you are choosing to be offended by the dictionary definition of a superstition.
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Professor Queso Newbie

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Regardless of what you believe in, this experience will alter Cam's life forever. Just like traumatic experiences for the rest of us. He will grow from this and in the future I completely expect a more humbled and mature Cam Newton. Let's not forget Cam is genuinely a good guy, always looking to help his community whether in the 704 or the 404. 

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DanTheMan Newbie

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i'm glad he's ok… it's been a scary couple of days. hopefully this brush with disaster gives him a new perspective and lights a fire under his ass.

that said i can't help but shake my head when people attribute their surviving car crashes to god's protection. more than 3,000 people die in car crashes every day in the u.s…. it seems arrogant to suggest jesus had his hands on your steering wheel but decided to take a smoke break when the other 3,000 careened off a cliff or whatever. oh well, superstitions gonna superstition.

Spoken like an unbeliever..
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PhillyB Grand Master

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lol

 

no wonder we can't ever have anything nice.

 

I don't believe, so I'm better than you, you neanderthal.

 

 

I'm sure Philly will correct my classification of caveman...

 

actually it's more accurately "paleolithic"

 

jk jk

 

where did you read me attacking you for believing, or being intolerant of your beliefs? i said believing surviving a car crash is a result of god looking out for you is a superstition, which it is, since the definition of superstition is believing that one event causes another without natural processes linking them. i'm sorry if you took that personally, but if you'll read back over the thread you'll see i never elevated non-superstitious people over superstitious people or criticized cam.

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Jangler Newbie

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The devil took me one place over the course of a few decades... but I am where I am right now because of God. No one will ever convince me other wise. 

 

 

I wish I could say I feel sorry for those that don't believe in something bigger than us....but it's not my place to point it out.

 

 

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At the core of the human experience is the desire to live... To survive and thrive. Your instinct is to above all else ensure your survival. YOU. If you have a family, then that scope broadens, but the gist is the same, as your children would ensure your survival as well even if you pass.

That being said... To illustrate my point, regardless of your beliefs, if a tornado completely destroys your home and you come to laying in a field, do you open your eyes and start looking for Joe Shmoe in BFE, Nebraska to make sure he's alright, or do you start looking for YOUR family? Generally, people make sure themselves and their loved ones are safe and secure before moving on to being concerned with anyone else. It's not arrogance, it's human nature. It's survival.

So, when you go through an experience like that, first and foremost, you're thankful that you are alive. Again, regardless of your beliefs, you are thankful. You may express it in different ways but you are thankful.

Cam isn't being arrogant. Neither is anyone else that express that thankfulness with the sincerity he has, that they lived through a potentially-life threatening event. They are thankful that they, individually, are alive. They aren't thankful they lived and Joe Shmoe they don't know died. They are just thankful they lived. Furthermore, when you believe that you, yourself, as an individual, are being protected by a higher power, you are thankful that you were kept relatively safe and allowed to live through your experience.

Even if I wasn't a man of faith, I don't see how that is offensive.

But, I agree with everything Cam said, and I'm thankful he is alive and well.

Great summary! 

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mbarbour21 Proficient

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actually it's more accurately "paleolithic"

jk jk

where did you read me attacking you for believing, or being intolerant of your beliefs? i said believing surviving a car crash is a result of god looking out for you is a superstition, which it is, since the definition of superstition is believing that one event causes another without natural processes linking them. i'm sorry if you took that personally, but if you'll read back over the thread you'll see i never elevated non-superstitious people over superstitious people or criticized cam.

I'll just say when using the term superstitious it sounds offensive to most. Cuz it is usually used to mean something that isn't real. Whether or not that is the definition most people see it that way. Much like "ignorant" doesn't mean you are stupid, it just means you didn't/don't know. Plus you did basically take a shot at his beliefs whether you meant to or not. I'm a Christian and wasn't offended. People have different beliefs. No way anyone will ever be able to answer all the questions in this world. The statement you made about being positive his beliefs were wrong/silly can be taken as arrogance also. Not intolerate, because you didn't suggest he shouldn't be allowed. Only certain people should be able to use the word bigot. Lol! You can't really tell people they shouldn't be offended tho. I do agree some people are too touchy, but just because you don't see it as offensive doesn't mean someone else doesnt. I do respect your opinion tho. Glad Cam is good and has been woke up. He is in my prayers.

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Icege Grand Master

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I wonder how many of these Christian folks would be reacting if Cam was praising Allah and Philly said the same thing that he did.

I imagine it would be something like, "DA should be our starter."

So glad that Cam came out of this the way that he did. He was very fortunate.

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