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Blowout Fallout : Kenny Vaccaro benched

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I'm also not so sure Vaccaro is as good as some think.

People are a guy who's fast and can hit and automatically think he's a good safety, but there's more to it than that.

Heck, if all it took was a guy who could run fast and make a hit, Charles Godfrey could have been a great safety.

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I'm also not so sure Vaccaro is as good as some think.

People are a guy who's fast and can hit and automatically think he's a good safety, but there's more to it than that.

Heck, if all it took was a guy who could run fast and make a hit, Charles Godfrey could have been a great safety.

Vaccaro was a once in every five years type talent at safety coming out of Texas He shut down speedy slot reciever Tavon Austin, then shut down big Keenan Allen. Elite coverage skills. Elite instincts. Elite fundamentals. Just as great playing up in the box. Elite everything except measureables (only ran 4.59 forty at combine). Tough as nails. Ultimate competitor. Basically everything you want. If you like football, then you'd like Kenny Vaccaro. Last year as a rookie he was awesome, playing every position in the back 7 as a joker role. His versatility is insane and Ryan did a great job utilizing it. This year, due to the Saints secondary being depleted, they aren't able to use him like they did last year and he's been handcuffed because of that. He has still been missing tackles and missing his gap on some big plays, which is why he's getting benched. It's like Cam, he struggled but bounced back. Vaccaro will too. But they need to get some help in that secondary. Both the other safeties, Byrd and Bush are out. And outside of Keenan Lewis, they have the worst corners in the league.

The bigger news is the Saints cut Joe Morgan. He is a great deep threat for them. Read he missed some meetings, something. Big loss for them. But Nick Toon does look to be stepping up finally, we shall see

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bet Vaccaro hates the Panthers - last year his season ended with a broken leg (I think?) suffered against Carolina, and this season he loses his job, presumably due to some horrible run fits including JStew's 69 yard scamper. feels good to have that kind of carnage after NO and CAR play. (the demotion not the injury)

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Every season sees guys who were 'dominant' at the college level fail to translate that dominance into the pros.

I'll grant that Ryan has been a massive failure as a DC this season, but I question the notion that's the sole reason for Vaccaro having issues.

Not saying that PFF is the gospel, but, PFF had graded him positively for much of his NFL career. I'd consider that translating decently well.

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Every season sees guys who were 'dominant' at the college level fail to translate that dominance into the pros.

I'll grant that Ryan has been a massive failure as a DC this season, but I question the notion that's the sole reason for Vaccaro having issues.

Vaccaro played all over at Texas, but was primarily used in the slot. With the Saints last year, he played 276 snaps covering the slot. The only time he didn't look good last year was deep in two-high safety looks. This year, the Saints are primarily putting him in two-high safety looks and he again has hasn't been good at that role. If you did that to Troy Polamalu, he wouldn't be good either. No idea why Ryan is doing the two-deep safety thing this year. Football Outsiders (or one of them) did a whole piece on how the Saints are sticking with that two deep safety look this year and how it is a terrible strategy. But the Saints are god-awful at CB so I guess Ryan is doing it because he is afraid of giving up the big play with the awful corners he has.

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