"[Cam] might be two years away from being finished."

[CRA]

I agree, Cam has hit his ceiling in my opinion, he is no longer a rushing threat so now he is being exposed as a very mediocre passer. I have no confidence whatsoever he's a franchise QB

Andrew Luck would be a mediocre passer in this scenario too

[thefuzz]

He was actually a pretty good passer this season before the coaching staff decided to start him running again.

 

If he's gonna succeed, he'll need coaches that will concentrate on his passing skills and use the run as a supplemental threat.

 

If he were to remain under this coaching staff, the way they're using him, "finished in two years" is a legit possibility.

 

Can't be pretty good at passing, and get a top 5 contract in today's NFL if you want long term success.

 

 

 

I still have faith in Cam's ability to get there, but the OL will have to be upgraded, a new coaching staff will have to take over, and Cam will have to fix his accuracy, touch, and mechanics.

[Mr. Scot]

Can't be pretty good at passing, and get a top 5 contract in today's NFL if you want long term success.

 

I still have faith in Cam's ability to get there, but the OL will have to be upgraded, a new coaching staff will have to take over, and Cam will have to fix his accuracy, touch, and mechanics.

 

I'm not a big fan of the 'hundred million dollar quarterback' model even for the ones who are great passers.  None of the teams that have thrown that kind of money at their QBs are seeing a good enough return on investment to make it worth it.

 

The 49ers were smart to structure Kaepernick's contract as they did.  Have said before I can see that being imitated a lot in the future, maybe even becoming the norm.

 

[CelibatePimp]

They should keep an eye on Wilson too. Already a poor pocket QB, it'll be the end of SEA when they sign him to a $20mil deal and Lynch has to leave.

[thefuzz]

I'm not a big fan of the 'hundred million dollar quarterback' model even for the ones who are great passers.  None of the teams that have thrown that kind of money at their QBs are seeing a good enough return on investment to make it worth it.

 

The 49ers were smart to structure Kaepernick's contract as they did.  Have said before I can see that being imitated a lot in the future, maybe even becoming the norm.

 

 

Agreed.  I hate the model, especially with the cap where it is.

 

 

That said, you have to have a good QB (most systems), to win on a consistent basis.

 

 

The pay as you play contracts, such as Kaps and Dalton's are the best for the team, while the Cutler contract will haunt the Bears for years.  I fear we are looking straight down the barrel of that type contract.

[thefuzz]

They should keep an eye on Wilson too. Already a poor pocket QB, it'll be the end of SEA when they sign him to a $20mil deal and Lynch has to leave.

 

It's called leverage, and Wilson has it.

 

 

SB winner, Harvin gone, Tate gone, Beast is leaving in the offseason, they will have to sign him, and yes it will hamper them going forward.

[Mr. Scot]

It's called leverage, and Wilson has it.

 

SB winner, Harvin gone, Tate gone, Beast is leaving in the offseason, they will have to sign him, and yes it will hamper them going forward.

 

It's already hampered a couple of teams, yet others continue to do it and/or support it.

 

[thefuzz]

It's already hampered a couple of teams, yet others continue to do it and/or support it.

 

 

Yup.

 

You remember a couple years ago when I started really beating the drum for that type change in philosophy.  I thin you called it the "blue collar" QB.  Almost what Brady was his first couple years.

[CelibatePimp]

It's called leverage, and Wilson has it.

SB winner, Harvin gone, Tate gone, Beast is leaving in the offseason, they will have to sign him, and yes it will hamper them going forward.

They will sign him no doubt but they don't have to sign him to $20mil. No wonder there is friction in that locker room. An average passing QB cannot throw his weight around like he's Brady.

[Mr. Scot]

Yup.

 

You remember a couple years ago when I started really beating the drum for that type change in philosophy.  I thin you called it the "blue collar" QB.  Almost what Brady was his first couple years.

 

Some would say Brady still is.

 

And honestly, it's not just QBs.  Lots of teams have dedicated too high a percentage to a single player or group of players.

 

(in our case, runningbacks)

[CelibatePimp]

Even see the Saints and the Falcons. Signed their QBs to $20mil. The saints have had one win season since, granted they were without their coach for one of those. The Falcons have been losing since giving Ryan $20mil

[Ruff]

Unnamed NFC GM = Gettleman

lololol

[UNCrules2187]

I'm not a big fan of the 'hundred million dollar quarterback' model even for the ones who are great passers.  None of the teams that have thrown that kind of money at their QBs are seeing a good enough return on investment to make it worth it.

 

The 49ers were smart to structure Kaepernick's contract as they did.  Have said before I can see that being imitated a lot in the future, maybe even becoming the norm.

 

 

Aaron Rodgers?

Peyton Manning?

Tom Brady?

[Mr. Scot]

Even see the Saints and the Falcons. Signed their QBs to $20mil. The saints have had one win season since, granted they were without their coach for one of those. The Falcons have been losing since giving Ryan $20mil

 

And yet people want us to do what they did