Al Wallace said Cam Newton will never be a franchise qb

[WOW!!]

The "'real fans"" come here to critic and tell us how bad Cam is.......... interesting....

[Snake]

You could question his decision making in some games. Still I think Cams turnover ratio shows he knows the game and its the play calling that is failing him. Let Al be coached by Shula for a game and im sure he would change his mind.

[WhoAmI?]

ummm....look at the talent around him. i don't understand what you don't understand, no quarterback can survive behind an awful offensive line. his offensive line has been like musical chairs with new players at new spots each week. lets just take a look at the starting offensive line out of training camp:

 

LT: Byron Bell-An undrafted free agent out of New Mexico. Not a power 5 conference school, but New Mexico. He was switched over to left tackle after being below average at right tackle.

 

LG: Amini Silatolu-2nd round pick out of a division 2 school

 

C: Ryan Kalil-A good player

 

RG: Trai Turner-3rd round rookie who I believe was the youngest player in the league. he may have potential but that is a lot to ask out of such a young man.

 

RT: Nate Chandler-an undrafted free agent Tight End out of UCLA. Not only was he a tight end but he switched over to defensive tackle before finally converting into an offensive lineman.

 

Some notable backups that have also "protected" Cam this year:

 

David Foucault-Guy played for a team located in Montreal last year

Andrew Norwell-Another undrafted free agent rookie

Fernando Velasco-Undrafted player who was cut by another team

Chris Scott-5th round pick journeyman

 

That is an embarrassing group of players. If you paid attention and watched games, which I highly doubt you do since you somehow believe Cam is the root of our issues, they usually show a stat of the most hit QB over the past couple of seasons. Cam Newton is by far and away the number 1 player on that list. This team does not give him a chance. They started the season with Kelvin Benjamin, Greg Olsen, Jerricho Cotchery, and Jason Avant as his "weapons". That is the slowest group of weapons in the league. Not to mention they pretty much stripped him of his entire 12-4 offense last year and he missed most of training camp recovering from injuries, so he never had a chance to gel with the new offense. 

 

You want to say we have been sucking ever since Cam got here, well then your clueless. You throw out records at me of 6-10, 7-9, and 12-4. The only thing I see there is improvements 3 years in a row. This isn't the same situation as the colts and andrew luck. The colts were in the playoffs every year before the year Manning got hurt. The Colts tanked that season for the number 1 pick and brought Luck into a pretty decent situation. The Panthers had not been to the playoffs since 2008 and were coming off a year where they were by far the worst team in football and Jerry gutted the roster for the lockout.

 

I could understand a fan base like the Packers or Steelers bitching about Cam because they have a rich tradition of quarterbacks. But Panthers fans complaining about Cam is comical. If you think Cam is the issue then your not paying attention or don't know what you are talking  about, it is that simple. The only fan base in the world where they finally find their franchise quarterback and want to go back to the Kerry Collins, Frank Reich, Steve Beureline, Chris Weinke, Randy Fasani, Matt Lytle, Rodney Peete, Jake Delhomme, Vinny Testaverde, Matt Moore, David Carr, Jimmy Clausen, Brian St. Pierre days.

 

lol go back and find where I said Cam is the root of our issues. Geez, you people love putting words in people's mouths. All I have said is Cam still has legitimate QB issues that have dated back to college and that I don't think he is worthy of a huge contract. Now, you want to write me an essay because you can't admit that Cam is not a franchsie QB at the moment.

 

And you say Cam has shown improvement in the last 3 years, well exactly tell me where he has improved. He still overthrows WAY too many receievers, still holds the ball too long even when he has time, still has leadership problems, still has trouble reading defenses, still has no touch on his throws, still has 0 pocket awarness, his footwork is still bad, his mechanics is still bad, etc. So please, tell me these huge improvements Cam has made.

 

[WOW!!]

Worst voted Off-season moves by all NFL writer + Being injured and not have any off-season work = Cam not having his best season.

 

 

 

 

Who would have figured that?????

[WhoAmI?]

Well ummmmmm.... Your Opinion matters what.??????

 

And it's funny how you think you're a real fan.....and you just join the Huddle..

 

Your opinion holds the exact same weight as anybody's opinon on here.

 

And I didn't know I had to join the Huddle 6 years ago to be considered a real fan. You people crack me up. You're just reaching for stuff now.

 

[CamMoon]

lol go back and find where I said Cam is the root of our issues. Geez, you people love putting words in people's mouths. All I have said is Cam still has legitimate QB issues that have dated back to college and that I don't think he is worthy of a huge contract. Now, you want to write me an essay because you can't admit that Cam is not a franchsie QB at the moment.

And you say Cam has shown improvement in the last 3 years, well exactly tell me where he has improved. He still overthrows WAY too many receievers, still holds the ball too long even when he has time, still has leadership problems, still has trouble reading defenses, still has no touch on his throws, still has 0 pocket awarness, his footwork is still bad, his mechanics is still bad, etc. So please, tell me these huge improvements Cam has made.

So what should we do?

[Brooklyn Bully]

What's funny is how most everyone on this board blames 99% of Cam's poor play on everything but Cam. While the number should be more like 65%, it needs to be known that this organization will never and currently can't give Cam what he needs to allow him to play at a superstar level. In other words, there will always be excuses for Cam because we'll never have a perfect team to surround him with.

 

Cam isn't elite.

 

Cam is very good.

 

I can't stress enough that fans are SO in need of having a stud QB to root for that they overlook what I just typed. As soon as you can realize that he's not a superstar on the field, the sooner you'll realize that paying him a top salary is a HUGE gamble. Since this team can't cover his faults, his faults will continue to shine. Now, if they want to pay the man a fair amount to stay here ... great. He'll win some games for us, he'll lose some games for us. The rest of the team will do the same. But at least we won't have to regret him doing so with such a massive contract.

 

I know you guys love Cam. I know you think he has the highest ceiling of any QB in the history of the NFL. I know you think if it wasn't for Andrew Luck, he'd be the best young QB out there. But the fact is the supporting cast around him will continue to be sub par, you'll continue to always blame that supporting cast and never blame Cam, and you'll continue to wallow in the SUCK that is this team.

 

DG needs to be smart. Overpaying someone who isn't elite isn't smart.

 

I'm fine with Cam staying here. But I wouldn't break the bank for Jay Cutler, Kaep, Dalton, RGIII, or Foles either. Cam has not earned the money.  

[Seltzer]

I don't know who remembers this but Al Wallace was on the radio two years ago preseason and said Greg Hardy just didn't get it and Frank Alexander was poised to be our starting DE with Charles Johnson

(Edit) And by get it he meant the DE position. Obviously had he been talking about his personal life he would have been accurate

I liked Al as a player but there's a reason he's not coaching somewhere

[WOW!!]

The fact that the ""Cam realist"" and ""real Panther Fans"" (who just joined this off-season) can't name 1 QB who would be successful in this situation is a real hoot.... 

[Dex]

Cam still can't hit opens receivers, use proper footwork and step up into the pocket. Damn you Shula!

[NJPanthers12]

lol go back and find where I said Cam is the root of our issues. Geez, you people love putting words in people's mouths. All I have said is Cam still has legitimate QB issues that have dated back to college and that I don't think he is worthy of a huge contract. Now, you want to write me an essay because you can't admit that Cam is not a franchsie QB at the moment.

 

And you say Cam has shown improvement in the last 3 years, well exactly tell me where he has improved. He still overthrows WAY too many receievers, still holds the ball too long even when he has time, still has leadership problems, still has trouble reading defenses, still has no touch on his throws, still has 0 pocket awarness, his footwork is still bad, his mechanics is still bad, etc. So please, tell me these huge improvements Cam has made.

 

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete-prisco/24754866/after-further-review-cam-newton-is-making-the-evolution-to-an-elite-qb

 

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11964854

 

 

Two people who know a lot more football then you speaking about how Cam has made improvements out of college. John Clayton goes as far as saying Cam is a franchise quarterback. You also have zero evidence of Cam having leadership issues. That is just completely made up and assumed because the team is struggling. I have not heard 1 negative comment about Cam from his teammates. 

 

You mention all his flaws and make it seem like he's an awful quarterback. It is funny that the guy with this many flaws and this awful of a player had the best rookie year ever and led his team to 2 seed last year. Again there is also no proof you followed this team until this offseason so you may have missed that. He has also put up touchdown numbers that only Dan Marino and Peyton Manning put up in there first couple seasons. Pretty amazing for a guy who is absolutely not a franchise quarterback, overthrows way too much, holds on to the ball too long, has leadership issues, can't read defenses, has no touch, 0 pocket awareness, awful footwork, and awful mechanics. 

[Kevin Greene]

The fact that the ""Cam realist"" and ""real Panther Fans"" (who just joined this off-season) can't name 1 QB who would be successful in this situation is a real hoot.... 

 

 

True entertainment would be watching Peyton Manning play for the Panthers with this roster and Shula's play calling.

Must watch TV.

[General_Purr]

Compare Cams highlights to any other possible QB you have in mind we can have..?

 

Cam could flourish.. There are many other positions that are needed upgraded ever before thinking of taking Cams spot off

[WOW!!]

What's funny is how most everyone on this board blames 99% of Cam's poor play on everything but Cam. While the number should be more like 65%, it needs to be known that this organization will never and currently can't give Cam what he needs to allow him to play at a superstar level. In other words, there will always be excuses for Cam because we'll never have a perfect team to surround him with.

 

Cam isn't elite.

 

Cam is very good.

 

I can't stress enough that fans are SO in need of having a stud QB to root for that they overlook what I just typed. As soon as you can realize that he's not a superstar on the field, the sooner you'll realize that paying him a top salary is a HUGE gamble. Since this team can't cover his faults, his faults will continue to shine. Now, if they want to pay the man a fair amount to stay here ... great. He'll win some games for us, he'll lose some games for us. The rest of the team will do the same. But at least we won't have to regret him doing so with such a massive contract.

 

I know you guys love Cam. I know you think he has the highest ceiling of any QB in the history of the NFL. I know you think if it wasn't for Andrew Luck, he'd be the best young QB out there. But the fact is the supporting cast around him will continue to be sub par, you'll continue to always blame that supporting cast and never blame Cam, and you'll continue to wallow in the SUCK that is this team.

 

DG needs to be smart. Overpaying someone who isn't elite isn't smart.

 

I'm fine with Cam staying here. But I wouldn't break the bank for Jay Cutler, Kaep, Dalton, RGIII, or Foles either. Cam has not earned the money.  

 

 

Well 99% people have seen Cam perform well for 3 years with avg. talent around him..

 

We would like to see what he could do with above avg. talent around him..

 

99% of people can see this isn't even below avg. talent we have around him now...

 

 

 

 

And all the QB you named at least were giving a shot to prove who they are with talent around them...

 

 

Can you say the same for Cam..