Al Wallace said Cam Newton will never be a franchise qb

[WOW!!]

You made a claim that Cam has the best three year passing stats and I pointed you to Andy Dalton. Don't get the conversations mixed up.

 

 

I said 1 of the best and he does...

 

 

And again I've asked ''YOU" a few  question and you duck and dodge my question all the fuging times... Then you do this stupid poo of trying to change or deflect what was asked of "'you"' and think people don't notice that poo....

 

 

So from now on I'm going to keep posting a question every time we debate until you answer it!!!!

 

 

Name me a QB who has over come and succeeded all the 5 things I name that you want Cam to overcome??

 

 

What was your opinion on Cam getting paid After last season and do you have proof that you made this opinion known????

[Matthias]

Cam is definitely a franchise QB.  He is even good enough to have elite years with talent around him.  With all that said, I'm not confident he will have the will to continue on in Carolina.  JR and this front office is quite stubborn when it comes to coaching.  Cam would have to be Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning type of guy to have success here.  Does Cam have the attitude of a signal caller?  I'm not sure.  He may be more of a follower type of guy and accept everything the coaches tell him.  I originally didn't want Chip Kelly as our head coach, but in fact Cam would have succeeded under a innovative coach like that.  Cam would also be good under Harbaugh.  I don't believe there are any coaching candidates like that out there, and so it would be better to trade Cam right now, while his stock is high.  Or else we will see more of what we already have for the next 5 or more years.

[WOW!!]

The whole team has fallen off but let's pay one guy most of the money and bring in more scrubs and complain when it doesn't work?

I say let him play on the 5th yr option and the tag and continue to build the team.

 

 

For some strange reason....

 

Aaron Rodger, Peyton, Brady, Brees, are all making 20 mil and aren't playing with scrubs....

 

 

How the fug does that happened?????

[CelibatePimp]

I said 1 of the best and he does...

And again I've asked ''YOU" a few question and you duck and dodge my question all the fuging times... Then you do this stupid poo of trying to change or deflect what was asked of "'you"' and think people don't notice that poo....

So from now on I'm going to keep posting a question every time we debate until you answer it!!!!

Name me a QB who has over come and succeeded all the 5 things I name that you want Cam to overcome??

What was your opinion on Cam getting paid After last season and do you have proof that you made this opinion known????

If you get Cam's nuts out of the way, you will realize that I've answered those questions several times over. It's your stupid idea of repeating those trite questions that's getting noticed.

[WOW!!]

Cam is definitely a franchise QB.  He is even good enough to have elite years with talent around him.  With all that said, I'm not confident he will have the will to continue on in Carolina.  JR and this front office is quite stubborn when it comes to coaching.  Cam would have to be Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning type of guy to have success here.  Does Cam have the attitude of a signal caller?  I'm not sure.  He may be more of a follower type of guy and accept everything the coaches tell him.  I originally didn't want Chip Kelly as our head coach, but in fact Cam would have succeeded under a innovative coach like that.  Cam would also be good under Harbaugh.  I don't believe there are any coaching candidates like that out there, and so it would be better to trade Cam right now, while his stock is high.  Or else we will see more of what we already have for the next 5 or more years.

 

 

Brady, Brees, Peyton, Rodgers and whoever have never proved or had to succeed in this situation we have Cam in now....

 

Please name a time when all of these things were a problem

 

1. Bad Oline 

 

2. Lack of pass catching option

 

3. Bad play calling and coaching decision 

 

4. No running game

 

5. Breakdowns by the defense and special teams..

 

And any of them succeeded or was even asked to???

[teeray]

Que the "nuthugger" insults.  We have come full circle and we are back to 2011 pre draft again

[CelibatePimp]

For some strange reason....

Aaron Rodger, Peyton, Brady, Brees, are all making 20 mil and aren't playing with scrubs....

How the fug does that happened?????

Those teams had the same cap and depth issues like us? We are trying to build a team here not challenge for the team with the highest paid QB.

[WOW!!]

If you get Cam's nuts out of the way, you will realize that I've answered those questions several times over. It's your stupid idea of repeating those trite questions that's getting noticed.

 

 

So you showed proof that you posted a opinion last off season that you think Cam shouldn't get paid?????

 

Where is it this proof?????

 

 

And you haven't name 1 QB who has succeeded in the position we have put Cam in so now you're bold face lying????

 

Also like how you liked to talk about other men's dicks a lot... Specially when you can't debate and answer question like a big boy...

[CelibatePimp]

So you showed proof that you posted a opinion last off season that you think Cam shouldn't get paid?????

Where is it this proof?????

And you haven't name 1 QB who has succeeded in the position we have put Cam in so now you're bold face lying????

Also like how you liked to talk about other men's dicks a lot... Specially when you can't debate and answer question like a big boy...

How does anything I said last offseason matter? you judge a player by their current performance especially when you are about to sink more than 10% of the team's cap on one position.

You'll make a good Hurney clone

[WOW!!]

Those teams had the same cap and depth issues like us? We are trying to build a team here not challenge for the team with the highest paid QB.

 

 

But wait you just made a excuse for not giving Cam weapons but still judge Cam when he doesn't have them???????

 

 

Plus YOU said how do teams surround their QB with talent while paying a big money QB... I just showed teams that are doing that...

 

Also the Saints aren't in great Cap shape but they seem to keep weapons on top of weapon and a avg.. Oline around Brees....

 

 

But again YOU still haven't answered any of my question..

[Matthias]

Brady, Brees, Peyton, Rodgers and whoever have never proven or had to succeed in this situation we have Cam in now....

 

Please name a time when all of these things were a problem

 

1. Bad Oline 

 

2. Lack of pass catching option

 

3. Bad play calling and coaching decision 

 

4. No running game

 

5. Breakdowns by the defense and special teams..

 

And any of them succeeded or was even asked to???

 

 

We will make improvements for sure, but we will never get Cam what he really needs.  Cam needs a dynamic, offensive minded coach because he is not a signal caller.  We will never get that kind of coach here in Carolina most likely.  Yet with that said, if you put those QBs on this offense, they would get more out of it because those guys are signal callers.  They will demand more out of the players they are with, and that's not knocking Cam.  Cam is just not that type of QB.  Cam is the kind of guy that does what he's expected of, and hopes everyone else do the same.  Brady will light into someone if they mess up, or at least talk to them on the sideline etc.  If things go wrong for us, Cam will sit with his QB coach and try to find out what he's doing wrong, even when he has done nothing wrong.

 

If you are not that kind of QB, you need a coach that will talk to guys on the sidelines when they mess up.  Rivera just stares into space, and sometimes yell at the refs.  I doubt we will ever get that dynamic offensive minded coach here.

[Davidson Deac II]

Cam is definitely a franchise QB.  He is even good enough to have elite years with talent around him.  With all that said, I'm not confident he will have the will to continue on in Carolina.  JR and this front office is quite stubborn when it comes to coaching.  Cam would have to be Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning type of guy to have success here.  Does Cam have the attitude of a signal caller?  I'm not sure.  He may be more of a follower type of guy and accept everything the coaches tell him.  I originally didn't want Chip Kelly as our head coach, but in fact Cam would have succeeded under a innovative coach like that.  Cam would also be good under Harbaugh.  I don't believe there are any coaching candidates like that out there, and so it would be better to trade Cam right now, while his stock is high.  Or else we will see more of what we already have for the next 5 or more years.

 

 

 

With the way NFL contracts are constructed, Cam isn't leaving unless upper management wants him to.  That is, unless he pulls an Carson Palmer and decides to just retire unless the team trades him.  And there is certainly no indication of that. 

 

And besides, where could he go?  Most of the good teams are already set at qb.  Maybe Arizona, but with them having so much cash tied up in Palmer, I find that highly unlikely.   Cam will be back next year.  And hopefully with the salary cap issues slowly but surely being resolved, we will be able to put more talent around him over the next couple of years.   

[WOW!!]

How does anything I said last offseason matter? you judge a player by their current performance especially when you are about to sink more than 10% of the team's cap on one position.

You'll make a good Hurney clone

 

 

So you think it's SANE to judge a player off 6 games instead of the 53 game before?????? 

 

 

LOL keep going you're proven your sanity every post...

[UKPanther94]

Cam literally has to be perfect just to have half a chance with what he has to work with, and that's before you consider he's beat up at the moment