Al Wallace said Cam Newton will never be a franchise qb

[capfolly]

Will Cam ever be a top 5 QB? Maybe not. Can he be a top 10? Hell yes. 

[TheRed]

One enormous difference maker for Aaron Rodgers...Mike McCarthy.

 

Newton needs that type of head coach. Rivera is a joke. I'm sorry.

[WOW!!]

Since when? You don't get a big contract when you don't perform in the NFL. All the players on our team who were given big money had some form of production at a level consistent with the top players at their position. If you pay for potential, you are a gambler and you may end up with a team of potentials, like how we extended Ron hoping he had turned the corner.

 

 

See NFL draft pick signings Before 2011....

 

See Matt Sattford

 

See Sam Bradford

[CelibatePimp]

aaron rodgers had in 2011:

 

jordi nelson

 

randall cobb

 

greg jennings

 

james jones

 

jermichael finley

 

donald driver

 

and this offensive line

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2117442-green-bay-packers-boast-one-of-nfls-most-underrated-offensive-lines

 

 

aaron rodgers is a goddamn beast but if you think he could repeat "carrying the team" with Cam newton's o-line and weapons you are high as a fuging kite

 

Calm your ass down. We are talking about 2011 and 2012 when the excuse for a lack of winning season was our bad defense. I was saying carrying a team means winning despite having bad defense like GB or IND. What don't you get?

[TheRumGone]

Calm your ass down. We are talking about 2011 and 2012 when the excuse for a lack of winning season was our bad defense. I was saying carrying a team means winning despite having bad defense like GB or IND. What don't you get?

 

uh you have to have a good offense to carry a bad defense. Cam was a rookie. situational playcalling was dreadful. 1st and 2nd year cam. 7th season rodgers.

[CelibatePimp]

Top 5 in passing yards, passing TD for every QB in NFL HISTORY 1st 3 years in the league...

 

Anything else??

 

Andy Dalton has MORE passing Yds and passing TDs than Cam Newton at this point and has a better completion %.

 

[WOW!!]

Calm your ass down. We are talking about 2011 and 2012 when the excuse for a lack of winning season was our bad defense. I was saying carrying a team means winning despite having bad defense like GB or IND. What don't you get?

 

 

GB and Indy also had weapons on top of more weapons so they could outscore teams.

 

Cam never had the weapons Rodger or Luck has in triples...

[CelibatePimp]

uh you have to have a good offense to carry a bad defense

 

Yeah but our "good" offense was not able to carry our team in any of the years it was claimed Cam was carrying our team. Our defense was top 10 in 2012 when we had another losing season.

[TheRumGone]

Yeah but our "good" offense was not able to carry our team in any of the years it was claimed Cam was carrying our team. Our defense was top 10 in 2012 when we had another losing season.

 

read my edit i accidently pressed post.

 

i've always said total yards rankings are retarded.

 

you are asking a rookie to carry an entire offense (which he did btw)

 

but i guess some people forget all those blown 4th quarters by the defense (even our top 10 defense)

[WOW!!]

Andy Dalton has MORE passing Yds and passing TDs than Cam Newton at this point and has a better completion %.

 

 

The numbers are close in passing now add the  Cam's rushing numbers and scores.... How close are they now??? 

He also had AJ green, Sanu, 2 TE a better Oline Hue jackson and never had to worry about being the teams top rushers..

 

So.......... Again keep coming with more... this is like batting practice...LOL 

[CelibatePimp]

read my edit i accidently pressed post.

 

i've always said total yards rankings are retarded.

 

you are asking a rookie to carry an entire offense (which he did btw)

 

but i guess some people forget all those blown 4th quarters by the defense (even our top 10 defense)

 

All you guys are saying is Cam is good but he needs more weapons. You can't get him those weapons if you are going to pay him that much. We will end up like CHI or ATL with highly paid QBs but a weak team.

[Brooklyn Bully]

plain and simple 

 

 

Some of us understand football better then others..

 

We seen 3 years of a guy putting up the best numbers ever by any QB... With avg. talent around him..

 

We can see the effect he has had on this team on and off the field...

 

 

Most Important

 

We have seen how the 16 years before goes when you don't have a franchise QB..

 

Yes, we have seen Luck putting up the best numbers ever with avg talent around him. You're correct.

 

Let's just hope the faith you guys have in Cam's ceiling works out, and that the FO can put in the parts around him needed to prove you right, or this is board is going to be like this for years and years. Let's hope his big pay day doesn't hamper the rest of the team in any way and he plays lights out from here on out. But what do you care if it blows up in our faces, you, like me, are just a fan and it doesn't effect us in any way at all. 

 

Question, do Stafford, Ryan, Cutler, Bradford, and Alex Smith deserve to make as much as they do?

[TheRumGone]

All you guys are saying is Cam is good but he needs more weapons. You can't get him those weapons if you are going to pay him that much. We will end up like CHI or ATL with highly paid QBs but a weak team.

 

uh the draft

 

we have such a better core than chi or atl its not even funny

[TheRumGone]

this is the question. Do we pay cam (he's not gonna even ask for 25 mill a year thats retarded) and draft around him and add pieces when we can. we actually will have some flexibility once these damn rb contracts are off the books.

 

or do we use that money on other poo and draft a qb who will be a big unknown