Should G-man be fired

[CRA]

why do you want gruden or cowher to coach the panthers

Cowher will never come back. He won't want to ruin how awesome we have made him out to be.

[Kakarot]

Naw, he shouldn't be fired yet. He should be held accountable for this season, though. He was praised for his moves last year, so it's fair to criticize him for his moves this year.

[Marguide]

I think Ron is a bad head coach and beyond redemption. Yeah, he was dealt a bad hand, but this team should not be getting blown out week after week. I could elaborate further, but it's already been discussed to death.

 

As for Gettleman, I'm not a big fan so far, but he has done some good things to go along with the bad. However, if I were in JR's shoes, I would let him know that he is going to be expected to produce a better product in year 3. That means doing what must be done to get the right coaching staff in here, and getting the players that allow us to be competitive.

 

Renting Hardy for one year at $13 million was a bad decision and would have been a bad decision even if Hardy were still playing. We had too many holes to tie up that much for one year.

 

And yes, we could have signed a couple of select players to multi-year deals instead of tying up so much in the franchise tag. We may have had to slightly backload the deals to give us flexibility with Cam's contract, but the cap situation should be improving dramatically in the next couple of years, so multi-year contracts should not have been a deal breaker. 

 

We have to get it right this offseason, or we are perhaps going to waste the best assets we have right now, namely the prime years for Cam and Luke.

[top dawg]

why do you want gruden or cowher to coach the panthers

 

Didn't say that I did, but let's say that i do.  Their records speak for themselves, whether you like their records or not.  Cowher in particular has shown that he can coach a team up, and have some consistency of success from one year to the next.

 

I am not going to get caught up in Cowher or Gruden, but I stand by my point that firing Gettleman is only "brash or stupid" if you don't have a proven successor in line to take his job.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Cribbs, Edlemen.....Edwards. One didn't work. It was a gamble. Thought he pulled the trigger early but I liked the idea. Armanti looked to be freaky enough.

A 6th round RB today would have been a 3rd a few years ago. It is talent. Late round RBs today aren't what they were years ago. Hell I can name starters Id rather have cut at this point.

Gettlemen likely has to go back and draft a RB there again this year bc of it

 

cribbs - UDFA

edelman - 7th rounder

edwards - first pick in the second round of the 2011 NFL draft

 

you didn't understand what i was saying.  the only way for gaffney to have not had to hit the wire waiver to reach IR would be for him to make the final roster and then be IR'd.  that's a move that teams make all the time in the offseason.  that's a basic, staple move.  what happened this year was what, the first time in three years we've seen a team pull that?  that would also create a domino effect where a guy who isn't going to see the field in the first place takes somebody else's roster spot.  so what can we do, stash said player on the practice squad and then call him up later right?  guess what transaction has to take place for that to happen too?

 

that's not on the same planet as the trade to get edwards.

[SCP]

I'm as pissed as the next guy but Gettleman has a hard job. That said, his o-line moves (Foucault, Kugbilla, Chandler) have been perplexing

[CRA]

cribbs - UDFA

edelman - 7th rounder

edwards - first pick in the second round of the 2011 NFL draft

you didn't understand what i was saying. the only way for gaffney to have not had to hit the wire waiver to reach IR would be for him to make the final roster and then be IR'd. that's a move that teams make all the time in the offseason. that's a basic, staple move. what happened this year was what, the first time in three years we've seen a team pull that? that would also create a domino effect where a guy who isn't going to see the field in the first place takes somebody else's roster spot. so what can we do, stash said player on the practice squad and then call him up later right? guess what transaction has to take place for that to happen too?

that's not on the same planet as the trade to get edwards.

We have such poor talent all over this roster we easily could of kept him on to make the final roster.

Hell we could of cut either of our starting OTs this preseason and they would still likely be there. Chandler would have. Those are our starters. Now look at all the weak depth we had heading in that would have been much more likely to be there.

And I agree the Armanti thing happened to early.....but if Armanti panned out like the others no one would have complained even at that price

[jbland]

No, but Gettleman should be blamed for how poor this team is in so many places this season. He has to get more years, but this one should be scored as a minus.

My sentiment exactly.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

We have such poor talent all over this roster we easily could of kept him on to make the final roster.

Hell we could of cut either of our starting OTs this preseason and they would still likely be there. Chandler would have. Those are our starters. Now look at all the weak depth we had heading in that would have been much more likely to be there

 

literally every other team in the NFL would have done the exact same thing we did, and that's the point

 

it wasn't something bizarre or stupid or out of the ordinary at all.  and yeah i'm sure everybody would have been fine with cutting chandler, at that time our starting right tackle, in the preseason.  that's a useless hindsight argument.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

i mean i can just see the threads now

 

"omg why in the name of all that is holy is a damn rookie running back with a shredded knee stealing a roster spot when we have tolbert, williams, and stewart aghhhhhhhh"

[Mr Mojo Risin]

No from me for now. This offseason could very well change that though. Our coaching staff needs to be reorganized at best.

[Marguide]

For those of you saying that signing FA's to multi-year deals is what got us into this mess, that is flat out wrong.

 

What got us into this mess was signing the wrong players to multi-year deals and/or overpaying from a value standpoint. Gettleman earned his chops as a scout and scouting supervisor. If he doesn't have confidence in his ability to pick through players to find good fits then we have more problems than I thought.

[Snake]

You can excuse trading away a future second rounder for Armanti Edwards but losing Tyler Gaffney is a big deal?

 

Yeah, no credibility in this argument at all.

 

 

 

Yep that's right, Mr.Scot just bitch slapped CRA and showed him how a OG works.

 

 

 

 

 

Mr.Scot is not even playing anymore...

[WhoAmI?]

HELL NO! Who fires a GM after 1.5 seasons?