Should G-man be fired

[brandontruesdale]

I don't think he should be fired it just too early depending on what happens next season than maybe last year he did great job so based upon last year I think he deserves a chance to keep doing his job

[CRA]

He gave Rivera a bad hand but it doesn't excuse RR for being terrible and standing by Shula

Ron had no choice but to stand by Shula after last year. Ron doesn't seem to be the midseason scapegoat kind of dude either.

Ron knows he doesn't have the talent upfront for Shula ball. Knows he doesn't have the talent to create a new O midseason and it work either

[top dawg]

Glad to see that 96% of our fanbase thinks that firing G-Man is a very brash and stupid move. Look, Ron has had several moments to pull out a win this season but his pussification of our talent has affected this squad from top to bottom. I don't want to hear it. If there was ever a moment for Ron to win back the locker room, it was several weeks ago when our boys were still fighting. Instead of putting the game in Cam's hands (at times inches away), he chose to play it conservatively and he lost.

Ron deserves to be fired because he's stubborn, short-sighted, and unprepared every goddamn Sunday. Gettleman made some bad choices this off-season but who the fug saw our pass rush going bye-bye, Cam getting injured, Gross AND Wharton retiring, DeAngelo declining, etc?

Let's face it. Carolina was a victim of Murphy's Law yet again. Rivera, on the other hand, fell victim to himself again.

 

I only see it as brash and stupid if you don't have anyone in line to replace him.

 

For example, I am sure there are more than a few who would probably love for Cowher or Gruden to take over Gettleman and Rivera's duties.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

I thought Brown was bad...Edwards? Not a bad gamble. Just didn't work. Happens.

You don't have to be cool with it. Don't be cool with Dave paying and wasting a pick that is in NE though.

 

that transaction that belichick swooped in and picked up is something that goes off without a hitch every offseason.  whose roster spot should a sixth round running back have stolen so we could safely make it past cuts and then IR him without having to dump him on the waiver wire first anyway?

 

yeah, trading what ended up being the 33rd pick in the 2011 NFL draft to convert an FCS quarterback to a wide receiver is worse than that.  a lot worse.

[teeray]

I don't believe in renting a player for that amount of money, especially when you are already cash-strapped and have so many holes to fill on the O-line.

I proposed it then: I would have tried to trade Hardy (if I had signed him at all) to the Raiders for Jason Veldheer, Denarius Moore and possibly Lamarr Houston, or gotten some other Band-Aid pass rusher to fill in the gap as we find Hardy's successor.

Tagging Hardy was a questionable thing then, and it turned out to be a terrible thing for us now.

So you believe in signing up multi year contracts when already cap strapped, future cap and extensions of cornerstones be damned??

That is partially what got us into this mess in the first place.

[Mr. Scot]

I thought Brown was bad...Edwards? Not a bad gamble. Just didn't work. Happens.

You don't have to be cool with it. Don't be cool with Dave paying and wasting a pick that is in NE though.

 

You can excuse trading away a future second rounder for Armanti Edwards but losing Tyler Gaffney is a big deal?

 

Yeah, no credibility in this argument at all.

 

[top dawg]

So you believe in signing up multi year contracts when already cap strapped, future cap and extensions of cornerstones be damned??

That is partially what got us into this mess in the first place.

 

Sure I believe in signing multi-year contracts when the player is worth it.  Veldheer was more than worth signing. Just ask the Cards.  What I don't believe in is leaving your QB ass up because you decided to gamble on the LT.  

[stirs]

Fire everyone, cut everyone.

 

Now, satisfied?

[top dawg]

Can we stop with this?

Fans complain about wanting innovation but we're still suggesting Cowher? Come on man. Then there's Gruden (who has declined job offer after job offer because he's aware that he can't coach at a high level).

 

Someone will hire these guys one day, when both sides are ready, and don't be surprised if the team they take over is successful. It won't be so funny then.  But, after all, they were just examples.

[Dexterity]

SMH

If this forum was in charge of the Panthers we'd have a new general manager, head coach, and quarterback every single year.

[CRA]

that transaction that belichick swooped in and picked up is something that goes off without a hitch every offseason. whose roster spot should a sixth round running back have stolen so we could safely make it past cuts and then IR him without having to dump him on the waiver wire first anyway?

yeah, trading what ended up being the 33rd pick in the 2011 NFL draft to convert an FCS quarterback to a wide receiver is worse than that. a lot worse.

Cribbs, Edlemen.....Edwards. One didn't work. It was a gamble. Thought he pulled the trigger early but I liked the idea. Armanti looked to be freaky enough.

A 6th round RB today would have been a 3rd a few years ago. It is talent. Late round RBs today aren't what they were years ago. Hell I can name starters Id rather have cut at this point.

Gettlemen likely has to go back and draft a RB there again this year bc of it

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Someone will hire these guys one day, when both sides are ready, and don't be surprised if the team they take over is successful. It won't be so funny then.  But, after all, they were just examples.

 

why do you want gruden or cowher to coach the panthers

[CRA]

SMH

If this forum was in charge of the Panthers we'd have a new general manager, head coach, and quarterback every single year.

If this forum was in charge of extensions and big contracts.....they would have dished out all the ones they are now moaning about.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

So you believe in signing up multi year contracts when already cap strapped, future cap and extensions of cornerstones be damned??

That is partially what got us into this mess in the first place.

Having starting caliber players is a good idea. The fact that cap space wasted on Hardy is viewed as a positive by some of you is kinda sad. It's like a weird Stockholm syndrome.