Should G-man be fired

[Davidson Deac II]

I could make an argument that firing the Coach Of The Year after effectively tying his hands is shortsighted and retarded also. But at this point neither Rivera or G-man need defending in my book. Just perhaps another year to give us some clarity.

 

In principle, I agree with you.  However, imo Rivera's biggest problem is his end game/clock management skills.   That is probably why I would fire him.  And Gettleman has nothing to do with that. 

[beastson]

Dave letting go of irrelevant players in a terrible season that have nothing to do with our future?!? OH NO we has to fire him

 

 

 

Give me a break

 

Who has Dave signed that is relevant though? Did he not sign irrelevant players? Jason Williams was NOT irrelevant. A very good special teams player on a very terrible special teams 

[Bronn]

Who has Dave signed that is relevant though? Did he not sign irrelevant players? Jason Williams was NOT irrelevant. A very good special teams player on a very terrible special teams 

 

The Gettleman apologists will tell you that Cotchery, Avant, and maybe one or two more were relevant signings that have been misused.

Well, when your job is to manage a team and the things you are doing are being undermined, then there should be consequences to those that are undermining you.

 

In any other profession, lack of productivity would fall back upon poor management.

 

But we are supposed to give Gettleman a pass because the coaches aren't coaching right and he's only had a limited amount of time here?

[Bronn]

...and the fact that "No" outweighs the "Yes" makes me sad for the Panthers fan base.

If this were a major market/top tier team, there would be no question as to Gettleman's accountability. Being outnumbered 10 to 1 shows that the years of conditioning to accepting mediocrity has worked.

[CRA]

The Gettleman apologists will tell you that Cotchery, Avant, and maybe one or two more were relevant signings that have been misused.

Well, when your job is to manage a team and the things you are doing are being undermined, then there should be consequences to those that are undermining you.

In any other profession, lack of productivity would fall back upon poor management.

But we are supposed to give Gettleman a pass because the coaches aren't coaching right and he's only had a limited amount of time here?

I think there is definately an overreaction with them not being used right. Throwing 1-2 vertical routes to one of them in a season isn't exactly using them wrong. They basically run intermediate stuff all game long with them....which I thought WAS there thing.

I think lack of speed just hurts everyone. Defenses just know where our area of attack is most of the season....Olsen, LB, Avant and Cotchery are all possession guys suited to attack similar areas

[Happy Panther]

...and the fact that "No" outweighs the "Yes" makes me sad for the Panthers fan base.

If this were a major market/top tier team, there would be no question as to Gettleman's accountability. Being outnumbered 10 to 1 shows that the years of conditioning to accepting mediocrity has worked.

 

No top market team would fire Gettleman after 2 years.

[CRA]

No top market team would fire Gettleman after 2 years.

no top market team would have hired him

[Happy Panther]

I think people lose sight of how cash strapped we are. Yes we could have used the 6M or so on Hakeem Nicks and a decent OT (if there was one available) but that would have meant no carry over to next year and pain trying to find a way to pay Cam, Luke etc.

 

 

[CRA]

I think people lose sight of how cash strapped we are. Yes we could have used the 6M or so on Hakeem Nicks and a decent OT (if there was one available) but that would have meant no carry over to next year and pain trying to find a way to pay Cam, Luke etc.

Let's say we entered this offseason and decided Hardy was an expensive luxury and not part of our plans....and not worth it.

We had like 25 mill in cap space to go help build a more complete team than the one we were left with. Still would have kept current carry over amount similar

[CRA]

I think people lose sight of how cash strapped we are. Yes we could have used the 6M or so on Hakeem Nicks and a decent OT (if there was one available) but that would have meant no carry over to next year and pain trying to find a way to pay Cam, Luke etc.

Let's say we entered this offseason and decided Hardy was an expensive luxury and not part of our plans....and not worth it.

We had like 25 mill in cap space to go help build a more complete team than the one we were left with. Still would have kept current carry over amount similar

[AceMan]

We weren't cash strapped that bad...Jesus, can that excuse stop being used?!? 13 mil to Hardy! 2 mil to Roman freakin' Harper!!!

[Happy Panther]

I don't recall many people complaining about the Hardy signing until he had his DV incident. Dude is a beast and a  huge reason our defense went from first to worst. 

[frash.exe]

I say fire Gettleman because if you don't have the time machine from family matters in your backyard, then you don't belong in the conversation of who's a good GM

[AU-panther]

Gettlemen had some money entering this year.....

What he had....he used poorly. He also slow plays things being cheap and was left with nothing...and was forced to settle for junk.

Cheap?

He spent up to the cap. The only reason we are going to have any rollover is because we restructured CJ during the season.

Do you really think he wanted to create more dead money on CJ's contract? He did it because we were getting dangerously close to being over the cap. Which you can't be.