Does Cam want to go?

[FootballMaestro]

That's because he had 21 attempts. The punt blocks kept him off the field.

 

Bridgewater looked great.

 

Eh.

 

I see your point. However, the two blocked punts, the pass protection and lack of urgency on the Panthers part makes me not even think about what Bridgewater did in comparison to Cam.

[Pimpdaddy]

Cam Newton has won a championship every where he's ever been. The guy is a winner. He got stuck on a bad organization. The same organization Andrew Luck ran from and look how it's paid off for him.

 

....that's an understatement...

[Yaboychris28]

Is Cam Newton an elite qb? No, but in reality, out of the 32 NFL teams how many have an elite quarterback, Not many. Even though Cam will most likely never be a top 5 qb, he is good enough to win a Super Bowl if you build around him properly( I feel like he proved it last yr, we were just not quite there yet). I feel like our best option is to built a competent o-line first and foremost, starting with our 1st pick. Continue to dump these horrible contracts and add some more playmakers for his disposal and then see what happens.  

[FootballMaestro]

Cam Newton has won a championship every where he's ever been. The guy is a winner. He got stuck on a bad organization. The same organization Andrew Luck ran from and look how it's paid off for him.

 

Luck, obviously knew what he was doing.

 

Unfortuatnly for Cam; he was always painted as the bad guy. And the media would not had responded well to him rebuking Charlotte. So he came in as the #1 pick. However, this organization has shown to be as dysfunctional as Luck probably felt it would be--indeed--when he thumbed his nose at them.

 

[thefuzz]

When you find your quarterback, you do not simply let him leave.

These fickle fans wanting him gone will be switching to another team if that happens, because we will likely become the next Browns/Jaguars and be stuck drafting a different quarterback ever other year trying to replace Newton when we could have kept him and simply built around him like we should have done in the first place when we drafted him.

 

Agreed, to some extent.

 

 

We did "build" around Cam when we got him.  Remember "a running game is a young QB's best friend", and "a solid defense doesn't put as much pressure on a young QB"?

 

 

The problem was, we had a journalist running the front office.

 

Now we have a football guy running the FO but you won't give him the time to fix the issues of the past regime.

[thefuzz]

As to the point of this thread, no I don't think that Cam is trying to leave Charlotte, however I am worried that his agent may push him out the door.

 

 

When I hear things like ICON, GOAT, broken records, brand, freak, I get nervous.  If they ask for top 5 money, you ride the option next year, and tag him the next and following if he still won't sign.

 

 

Again, I can clearly see a John Elway type career path for Cam Newton, the question is, does today's NFL give him that much time?

[Khaki Lackey]

Agreed, to some extent.

 

 

We did "build" around Cam when we got him.  Remember "a running game is a young QB's best friend", and "a solid defense doesn't put as much pressure on a young QB"?

 

 

The problem was, we had a journalist running the front office.

 

Now we have a football guy running the FO but you won't give him the time to fix the issues of the past regime.

 

I hope you are braced for a response filled with hindsight and no realistic consideration of salary cap.

[Peppers90 NC]

i think so. i think he rather pay for much less money anywhere else at this point. it is obvious we are not dedicated to winning.

[thefuzz]

I hope you are braced for a response filled with hindsight and no realistic consideration of salary cap.

 

Oh, Iv'e been dancing with that devil for many years on this board.

[TheRed]

Agreed, to some extent.

 

 

We did "build" around Cam when we got him.  Remember "a running game is a young QB's best friend", and "a solid defense doesn't put as much pressure on a young QB"?

 

 

The problem was, we had a journalist running the front office.

 

Now we have a football guy running the FO but you won't give him the time to fix the issues of the past regime.

 

That high priced running game was already here before Newton arrived. I was speaking more about building through the draft.

 

Remember that 2011 draft? Newton is the only one left from that year.

 

Also, with all the resources we have poured into the defense, one would expect that unit to be better than bottom of the league.

 

We initially made some helpful moves, like trading for Olsen, and signing Shockey. But since then we have really done little to aid in his long term development, especially on the OL. We finally drafted a talented wide receiver for him to grow with, and it took 4 years sadly.

 

Yes, quite a bit of that falls on Hurney. But what's done is done. Gettleman is in charge now, and it's up to him to build around Newton. We've paid an awful lot of attention to our defense these last few years, now it's time to make some serious moves for the offense.

[OneBadCat]

We need to do everything we can to repair this team and entice Cam to stay. A combo of Cooper and KB would be pretty damn exciting for any QB.

 

Money needs to be spent and quality players signed. Can't use the cap excuse anymore. The team has become too shitty. Other teams with shittier caps still make moves. As much as Hurney was an erratic spender at least he brought guys in. I feel like Getts and Hurney are two opposite ends of a spectrum where we need balance.

[thefuzz]

That high priced running game was already here before Newton arrived. I was speaking more about building through the draft.

 

Remember that 2011 draft? Newton is the only one left from that year.

 

Also, with all the resources we have poured into the defense, one would expect that unit to be better than bottom of the league.

 

We initially made some helpful moves, like trading for Olsen, and signing Shockey. But since then we have really done little to aid in his long term development, especially on the OL. We finally drafted a talented wide receiver for him to grow with, and it took 4 years sadly.

 

Yes, quite a bit of that falls on Hurney. But what's done is done. Gettleman is in charge now, and it's up to him to build around Newton. We've paid an awful lot of attention to our defense these last few years, now it's time to make some serious moves for the offense.

 

Three years to draft a no. 1 WR, not 4.  And until then, we had Smith, and a guy in LaFell that should have been a good no. 2 here, and is a de facto no. 1.5 up there.

 

 

We have not done a good job surrounding Cam with talent, but that is to be laid at the feet of the previous regime, not the current one.  Who would you have grabbed instead of Star?  Instead of Luke?

 

Had we had the extra picks, do you think that we may have grabbed Kennan?  But, alas, we didn't, because of an incompetent GM.

[TheRed]

Three years to draft a no. 1 WR, not 4.  And until then, we had Smith, and a guy in LaFell that should have been a good no. 2 here, and is a de facto no. 1.5 up there.

 

 

We have not done a good job surrounding Cam with talent, but that is to be laid at the feet of the previous regime, not the current one.  Who would you have grabbed instead of Star?  Instead of Luke?

 

Had we had the extra picks, do you think that we may have grabbed Kennan?  But, alas, we didn't, because of an incompetent GM.

 

I typed that up kind of fast, but the point remains. Are we going to argue over something trivial or keep with the point?

 

3 years is pathetic. Especially considering a team like the Colts managed to do so for Andrew Luck with T.Y. Hilton in the same draft.

 

Also, kind of pointless to mention Smith and Lafell considering we cleared them and every other WR out while Newton headed into a contract year with offseason surgery. That wasn't exactly helpful. Then Avant who was supposedly a "replacement" was also ran out of town.

 

We've managed to bungle this so badly it's almost comical.

[Sloth]

At this point I don't think it's in our best interest to throw tons of money at him. We're going to get a new coach, either this year or next. That's usually a new offensive scheme and eventually a QB change. He's regressing, which is a mix of him, our fuged up cap, bad org decisions on OL/WR talent, and our poo coaches. We need half an OL, at least one more WR, two DE, at least another DT, at least one CB, two new S, and probably two new OLB. We're talent starved across the board and we're probably not going to be a serious contender for a couple of years (optimism woo!). I don't know that it makes sense to pay a poo ton of money at QB when it's going to take quite a while to build up a competitive squad.

 

I'm a fan of Newton and think we went about the whole "franchise QB" thing in about as backwards a way as possible, but unless we're getting a middle of the road deal, I'm not throwing a new contract his way.