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Quick Study of First Round Tackles

Mr. Scot

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...done for my own edification.

 

Here are the tackles taken in the first round over the past ten drafts.

 

2014

#2 Greg Robinson, Auburn (Saint Louis Rams)

#6 Jake Matthews, Texas A&M (Atlanta Falcons)

#11 Taylor Lewan, Michigan (Tennessee Titans)

#19 Ja'Wuan James, Tennessee (Miami Dolphins)

2013

#1 Eric Fisher, Central Michigan (Kansas City Chiefs)

#2 Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M (Jacksonville Jaguars)

#4 Lane Johnson, Oklahoma (Philadelphia Eagles)

#11 D. J. Fluker, Alabama (San Diego Chargers)

#19 Justin Pugh, Syracuse (New York Giants)

2012

#4 Matt Kalil, USC (Minnesota Vikings)

#23 Riley Reiff, Iowa (Detroit Lions)

2011

#9 Tyron Smith, USC (Dallas Cowboys)

#17 Nate Solder, Colorado (New England Patriots)

#22 Anthony Castonzo, Boston College (Indianapolis Colts)

#25 James Carpenter, Alabama (Seattle Seahawks)

#29 Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin (Chicago Bears)

#32 Derek Sherrod, Mississippi State (Green Bay Packers )

2010

#4 Trent Williams, Oklahoma (Washington Redskins)

#6 Russell Okung, Oklahoma State (Seattle Seahawks)

#11 Anthony Davis, Rutgers (San Francisco 49ers)

#23 Bryan Bulaga, Iowa (Green Bay Packers)

2009

#2 Jason Smith, Baylor (Saint Louis Rams)

#6 Andre Smith, Alabama (Cincinnati Bengals)

#8 Eugene Monroe, Virginia (Jacksonville Jaguars)

#23 Michael Oher, Mississippi (Baltimore Ravens)

2008

#1 Jake Long, Michigan (Miami Dolphins)

#12 Ryan Clady, Boise State (Denver Broncos)

#14 Chris Williams, Vanderbilt (Chicago Bears)

#15 Branden Albert, Virginia (Kansas City Chiefs)

#17 Gosder Cherilus, Boston College (Detroit Lions)

#19 Jeff Otah, Pittsburgh (Carolina Panthers)

#21 Sam Baker, Southern California (Atlanta Falcons)

#26 Duane Brown, Virginia Tech (Houston Texans)

2007

#3 Joe Thomas, Wisconsin (Cleveland Browns)

#5 Levi Brown, Penn State (Arizona Cardinals)

#28 Joe Staley, Central Michigan (San Francisco 49ers)

2006

#4 D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia (New York Jets)

2005

#13 Jammal Brown, Oklahoma (New Orleans Saints)

#19 Alex Barron, Florida State (Saint Louis Rams)

 

 

Nine teams took two tackles over this span, two of them (Packers and Seahawks) in consecutive years.  One team (Rams) took three.

 

Atlanta Falcons (2008 - Sam Baker, 2014 - Jake Matthews)

Chicago Bears (2008 - Chris Williams, 2011 - Gabe Carimi)

Detroit Lions (2008 - Gosder Cherilus, 2012 - Riley Reiff)

Green Bay Packers  (2010 - Bryan Bulaga, 2011 - Derek Sherrod)

Jacksonville Jaguars (2009 - Eugene Monroe, 2013 - Luke Joeckel)

Kansas City Chiefs  (2008 - Branden Albert, 2013 - Eric Fisher)

Miami Dolphins (2008 - Jake Long, 2014 - Ja'Wuan James)

Saint Louis Rams (2005 - Alex Barron, 2009 - Jason Smith, 2014 - Greg Robinson)

San Francisco 49ers (2007 - Joe Staley, 2010 - Anthony Davis)

Seattle Seahawks (2010 - Russell Okung, 2011 - James Carpenter)

 

 

Compare this data to a list of highest graded tackles compiled by Pro Football Focus this past September.

 

 - Branden Albert (LT, Chiefs) +7.1, taken Round 1, Pick 15, 2008

 - Derek Newton (RT, Texans) +6.5, taken Round 7, Pick 214, 2011

 - Joe Barksdale (RT, Rams) +4.8, taken Round 3, Pick 92, 2011

 - Zach Strief (RT, Saints) +4.7, taken Round 7, Pick 210, 2006

 - King Dunlap (LT, Chargers) +4.4, taken Round 7, Pick 230, 2008

 - Ja’Wuan James (RT, Dolphins) +4.1, taken Round 1, Pick 19, 2014

 - Jason Peters (LT, Eagles) +3.6, taken Undrafted, 2004

 - Jermon Bushrod (LT, Bears) +3.5, taken Round 4, Pick 125, 2007

 - Joe Thomas (LT, Browns) +3.3, taken Round 1, Pick 3, 2007

 - Andre Smith (RT, Bengals) +3.7, taken Round 1, Pick 6, 2009

 - Donald Penn (LT, Raiders) +3.2, taken Undrafted, 2006

 

 

And this list of the best offensive line units compiled by Sports Illustrated (link) back in July.

 

1. New England Patriots

2. Dallas Cowboys

3. Detroit Lions

4. San Diego Chargers

5. Cincinnati Bengals

6. New Orleans Saints

7. Denver Broncos

8. Green Bay Packers

9. Cleveland Browns

10. Philadelphia Eagles

 

 

Also worth factoring in who's not with their original team anymore.

 

- Gabe Carimi (#29 to the Bears in 2011) was traded to the Bucs for 1 6th rounder in 2013.  They cut him after the season.  He now plays for the Falcons.

- Derek Sherrod (#32 to the Packers in 2011) was cut from the Packers earlier this year after an injury filled career.  He's not currently on an NFL roster.  A couple of teams have had him in for tryouts (the Panthers being one of them) but no one's made him an offer.

- Jason Smith (#2 to the Rams in 2009) was first traded to the Jets in 2012, released from the Jets in 2013, signed by the Saints. signed by the Saints that same year, released by the Saints that same year, picked back up by the Jets that same year, and then finally released again by the Jets just eight days after they signed him.  He is currently out of football and would have to be considered the biggest bust of the past ten years at this position.

- Eugene Monroe (#8 to the Jaguars in 2009) was traded to the Baltimore Ravens for 4th and 5th round picks in 2013.  He effectively replaced Michael Oher, who later moved on.

- Michael Oher (#23 to the Ravens in 2009) signed a free agent deal with the Tennessee Titans in 2014.  Over his Ravens career, Oher bounced back and forth between the left and right side (generally playing better on the right).

- Jake Long (#1 to the Dolphins in 2008) signed a free agent contract with the Saint Louis Rams in 2013.  Miami had offerred him an extension but he turned it down.  He is the highest drafted player on this list to change teams, but did so by choice.

- Chris Williams (#14 to the Bears in 2008) was released by the Bears in 2012 and picked up by the Rams.  In 2014, he signed a free agent contract with the Buffalo Bills.

- Branden Albert (#15 to the Chiefs in 2008) signed a free agent contract with the Dolphins in 2014.  he was reportedly unhappy with the Chiefs' plans to move him to right tackle after they drafted Eric Fisher.

- Levi Brown (#5 the the Cardinals in 2007) was traded to the Steelers in October of 2013.  He was released by the Steelers the following offseason and is currently not playing anywhere.

- Jammal Brown (#13 to the Saints in 2005) was traded to the Redskins in 2010 for a fourth round pick.  He lasted two years there and hasn't played since.

- Alex Barron  (#19 to the Rams in 2005) was traded to the Dallas Cowboys in May of 2010.  He later signed with the Saints (August 2011) but was released just a few months later with an injury settlement.  He went to camp with the Seahawks and Raiders after that  but didn't make the final roster either time.

 

And then of course there's Jeff Otah :unsure:

 

 

So what can we learn here (aside from the fact that I've got a lot of time on my hands today)?

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Speaking of tackles, I got a chance to watch Austin Peat in the Stanford-UCLA game.

He's big and can move, but a little iffy in the areas of balance and body control.

Small sample, but left me a little leary.

I noticed he seemed to be winded, early in the game as well.

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Just gonna give my 2 cents on the individual players, just my own personal opinions of whether they were worth the pick.

 

2014

 

#2 Greg Robinson , Auburn (Saint Louis Rams) Still early, looking like a bad pick so far though (hasn't he been moved inside to G?)

#6 Jake Matthews , Texas A&M (Atlanta Falcons) Still early.  Completely 50/50 in my opinion so far.

#11 Taylor Lewan , Michigan (Tennessee Titans) Looking good.

#19 Ja'Wuan James , Tennessee (Miami Dolphins) Looking real good.

 

2013

 

#1 Eric Fisher  , Central Michigan  (Kansas City Chiefs) Bust, but has time to change that

#2 Luke Joeckel  , Texas A&M  (Jacksonville Jaguars) Bust, but has time to change that

#4 Lane Johnson  , Oklahoma  (Philadelphia Eagles) Not quite a bust yet, time to move further from that label.

#11 D. J. Fluker  , Alabama  (San Diego Chargers) I'm not even sure, I think he's been doing ok.  Haven't heard much about him.

#19 Justin Pugh  , Syracuse  (New York Giants ) Not looking great, but he was overdrafted anyway.

 

2012

 

#1 Matt Kalil  , USC  (Minnesota Vikings) Bust, has time to change that but time is running out.

#1 Riley Reiff  , Iowa  (Detroit Lions) Solid pick.

 

2011

 

#17 Nate Solder  , Colorado  (New England Patriots) Good pick.

 

2010

 

#4 Trent Williams  , Oklahoma  (Washington Redskins) Stud, well worth it.

#6 Russell Okung  , Oklahoma State  (Seattle Seahawks) Very good, worth it.

#23 Bryan Bulaga  , Iowa  (Green Bay Packers) Bust.  Maybe a change of scenery....

 

2009

 

#2 Jason Smith  , Baylor  (Saint Louis Rams) Epic bust.

#6 Andre Smith  , Alabama  (Cincinnati Bengals) Stud, worth it.

#8 Eugene Monroe  , Virginia  (Jacksonville Jaguars) Worth it.

#23 Michael Oher  , Ole Miss  (Baltimore Ravens) Worth it.

 

2008

 

#1 Jake Long, Michigan  (Miami Dolphins) Stud, worth it, but injuries and high price tag have brought this one down a little.

#12 Ryan Clady, Boise State  (Denver Broncos) Stud, worth it.

#14 Chris Williams  , Vanderbilt  (Chicago Bears)  Uh, I dunno?  Probably means a bust.

#15 Branden Albert, Virginia  (Kansas City Chiefs) Stud, worth it.

#17 Gosder Cherilus  , Boston College  (Detroit Lions) Uh??

#19 Jeff Otah  , Pittsburgh  (Carolina Panthers) On his way to studhood, but injuries derailed the promising career.  Bust.

#21 Sam Baker  , USC  (Atlanta Falcons) Bust

#26 Duane Brown, Virginia Tech  (Houston Texans) Worth it.

 

2007

 

#3 Joe Thomas, Wisconsin  (Cleveland Browns) Stud, well worth it.

#5 Levi Brown  , Penn State  (Arizona Cardinals) Semi-bust.  Not a good starting T, but he's still playing. 

 

2006

#4 D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia  (New York Jets) Stud, well worth it.

 

2005

#13 Jammal Brown, Oklahoma  (New Orleans Saints) So-so.

#19 Alex Barron  , Florida State  (Saint Louis Rams) Not familiar, guessing a bust.

 

 

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Basically it looks like quality of OTs is just in general decline.  2010 was the last draft to have very good OTs.  No telling why this is.  Those guys and the ones that came before stepped in and were good right away, so it's not like the guys from 2012 and after are even on a similar path or anything.  There just hasn't been the same quality lately.  Let's hope this year's draft doesn't follow the same trend.

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Speaking of tackles, I got a chance to watch Austin Peat in the Stanford-UCLA game.

 

He's big and can move, but a little iffy in the areas of balance and body control.

 

Small sample, but left me a little leary.

 

and that is why in my eyes, i do not see a high 1st rounder. he is off balance way to much for my liking.  his name is Andrus , and one guy you need to check out is Ronnie Stanley, LT from Notre Dame.

 

also you forgot about Tyron Smith LT, for Dallas. he was drafted in 2011 pick #9 i believe. he is considered a top 5 LT,and Ogbhuei reminds me of him.

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#9 Tyron Smith

 

also you forgot about Tyron Smith LT, for Dallas. he was drafted in 2011 pick #9 i believe. he is considered a top 5 LT,and Ogbhuei reminds me of him.

 

There were actually six tackles taken in that draft, and somewhere in my cut and paste I lost every one of them but Nate Solder :blink:

 

(ah, the joy of spreadsheets) :lol:

 

I'll fix it.

 

 

and that is why in my eyes, i do not see a high 1st rounder. he is off balance way to much for my liking.  his name is Andrus , and one guy you need to check out is Ronnie Stanley, LT from Notre Dame.

 

Yeah, I've done that to him a couple of times.  I think it's because I'm thinking of the college, Austin Peay :lol:

 

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