Picking 8th vs 21st

[Mr. Scot]

Yeah...and finding value in the draft...few hits and a ton of misses. Thanks Hurney! (yeah yeah he had some good drafts too)

2009

2 11 43 Everette Brown Defensive End Florida State

2 27 59 Sherrod Martin Safety Troy

3 29 93 Corvey Irvin Defensive Tackle Georgia

4 11 111 Mike Goodson Running Back Texas A&M

4 28 128 Tony Fiammetta Fullback Syracuse

5 27 163 Duke Robinson Tackle Oklahoma

7 7 216 Captain Munnerlyn Cornerback South Carolina

2010

2 16 48 Jimmy Clausen Quarterback Notre Dame

3 14 78 Brandon LaFell Wide Receiver LSU

3 25 89 Armanti Edwards Quarterback/Wide Receiver Appalachian State University

4 26 124 Eric Norwood Linebacker South Carolina

6 6 175 Greg Hardy Defensive End Mississippi

6 29 198 David Gettis Wide Receiver Baylor

6 33 202 Jordan Pugh Safety Texas A&M

6 35 204 Tony Pike Quarterback Cincinnati

7 16 223 R.J. Stanford Cornerback Utah

7 42 249 Robert McClain Cornerback Connecticut

2011

1 1 1 Cam Newton Quarterback Auburn

3 1 65 Terrell McClain Defensive Tackle South Florida

3 33 97 Sione Fua Defensive Tackle Stanford

4 1 98 Brandon Hogan Cornerback West Virginia

5 1 132 Kealoha Pilares Wide Receiver Hawaii

6 1 166 Lawrence Wilson Linebacker Connecticut

6 38 203 Zachary Williams Center Washington State

7 41 244 Lee Ziemba Tackle Auburn

2005 and 2007 were pretty bad drafts, if I remember correctly.

[hdevonxz]

 

Yeah...and finding value in the draft...few hits and a ton of misses. Thanks Hurney! (yeah yeah he had some good drafts too)

 

2009

2 11 43 Everette Brown Defensive End Florida State

2 27 59 Sherrod Martin Safety Troy

3 29 93 Corvey Irvin Defensive Tackle Georgia

4 11 111 Mike Goodson Running Back Texas A&M

4 28 128 Tony Fiammetta Fullback Syracuse

5 27 163 Duke Robinson Tackle Oklahoma

7 7 216 Captain Munnerlyn Cornerback South Carolina

 

2010 

2 16 48 Jimmy Clausen Quarterback Notre Dame

3 14 78 Brandon LaFell Wide Receiver LSU

3 25 89 Armanti Edwards Quarterback/Wide Receiver Appalachian State University

4 26 124 Eric Norwood Linebacker South Carolina

6 6 175 Greg Hardy Defensive End Mississippi

6 29 198 David Gettis Wide Receiver Baylor

6 33 202 Jordan Pugh Safety Texas A&M

6 35 204 Tony Pike Quarterback Cincinnati

7 16 223 R.J. Stanford Cornerback Utah

7 42 249 Robert McClain Cornerback Connecticut

 

2011

 

1 1 1 Cam Newton Quarterback Auburn

3 1 65 Terrell McClain Defensive Tackle South Florida

3 33 97 Sione Fua Defensive Tackle Stanford

4 1 98 Brandon Hogan Cornerback West Virginia

5 1 132 Kealoha Pilares Wide Receiver Hawaii

6 1 166 Lawrence Wilson Linebacker Connecticut

6 38 203 Zachary Williams Center Washington State

7 41 244 Lee Ziemba Tackle Auburn

 

 

how does your best pick end up being a 7th rounder,  does this type of poo happen to any other nfl team???? smfh

 

 

3 good players out of 25....

[CelticCat]

8th?

 

We'll be battling Tampa for the 3rd pick if we don't start playing better.

[Mother Grabber]

how does your best pick end up being a 7th rounder,  does this type of poo happen to any other nfl team???? smfh

 

 

3 good players out of 25....

 

and only 1 currently playing for the Panthers.

[Mr. Scot]

Since we're looking at tackles next year, I'll relate this to a study i did of first round tackles over the last ten years ()

 

Here's who was available and where they were actually taken.

 

2014

 

Available at 8: Taylor Lewan (11) Ja'Wuan James (19)

Available at 21: Joel Bitonio (2nd Round, Pick 35)

 

2013

 

Available at 8: D J Fluker (11) Justin Pugh (19)

Available at 21: Menelik Watson (2nd Round, Pick 42)

 

2012

 

Available at 8: Riley Reiff

Available at 21: Reiff was still there (taken at 23)

 

2011

 

Available at 8: Tyron Smith (9) Nate Solder (17)

Available at 21: Anthony Costanzo (23) James Carpenter (25) Gabe Carimi (29, bust) Derek Sherrod (32, released)

 

2010

 

Available at 8: Anthony Davis (11)

Available at 21: Bryan Bulaga (23)

 

2009

 

Available at 8: Eugene Monroe (actually drafted with this pick)

Available at 21: Michael Oher (23)

 

2008

 

Available at 8: Ryan Clady (12) Chris Williams (14, he was terrible) Branden Albert (15) Gosder Cherilus (17) Jeff Otah (19, ugh)

Available at 21: Sam Baker (taken right at 21) Duane Brown (26)

 

2007

 

Available at 8: Nobody really worth picking that high.  Joe Thomas and Levi Brown were taken at 3 and 5 respectively.

Available at 21: Joe Staley (28)

 

2006

 

Available at 8: Again, pretty much nobody worth it.  D'Brickashaw Ferguson was taken at #4.  No other tackles went first round.

Available at 21: Winston Justice (2nd Round, Pick 39)

 

2005

 

Available at 8: Jammal Brown (13) Alex Barron (19, he was a bust)

Available at 21: Michael Roos (2nd Round, Pick 41)

[Semaj]

So keeping RIVERA, and firing GMan, may be better for the team long term interest and finally snagging that Lombardi??

 

Semaj, I usually agree with a lot of your post (I think). But with this one, I have to wonder. Lol

Well I guess if I was honest I would have to say that I don't believe that this is a super bowl team.  But ya never know.  Thats why they play the games eh.

[FootballMaestro]

Well I guess if I was honest I would have to say that I don't believe that this is a super bowl team.  But ya never know.  Thats why they play the games eh.

 

That to. Lol

 

However, I was making fun of the notion of you placing Rivera before GMan.

 

I know GMan has a lot to prove after this year. However, Rivera's already shown us he's not an NFL caliber coach IMHO; unless you feel he is.

[Semaj]

double post

[Semaj]

That to. Lol

 

However, I was making fun of the notion of you placing Rivera before GMan.

 

I know GMan has a lot to prove after this year. However, Rivera's already shown us he's not an NFL caliber coach IMHO; unless you feel he is.

No I agree with you 100 percent.  Rivera is not an NFL head coach. The jury is still out on G-man.  I can't make a call till after this off season.  He is 1-2 going into his 3rd season.  We need to see what he does with the cap space once he gets it.  I will either fully buy into G-man after this off-season or I will have to decide how much is to blame on the mess that he inherited, thus being ok with a 4th season.  I can't imagine giving him a 5th if he doesn't show what he has after the 4th.  Honestly, the adjustments that he makes or doesn't make after this $ hit Storm should tell us what we got.  

[davos]

Retitle: Pick 1st or 2nd?