Sunday we play at Minnesota. Falcons vs. Cards. Saints at Steelers

[TN05]

I find it utterly hilarious people want us to tank for a draft pick.

 

I love the argument of "well if we didn't suck so hard in 2010, we wouldn't have gotten Cam".  You are 100% correct, this situation is different being that we ALREADY HAVE CAM.

 

In terms of personnel (as in, not our shitty coaches), our biggest glaring weakness is our utterly inept offensive line.  Do we have other issues?  Absolutely.  Listen, I don't care if the next John Ogden is coming out in this draft.  One player, no matter how good, is not going to fix the woes of the offensive line.  Want proof?  Last year we had Gross, who played really freakin well and our oline was still trash.  The best lineman we have acquired since Cam has been here was an undrafted guy by the name of Andrew Norwell.  Then you look at the bust rate of recent top OTs... Jake Matthews has been unspectacular, Jake Long has been a solid underachiever, Greg Robinson is delegated to backup guard duty, Joeckel and Fisher have done nothing, Matt Kalil has taken massive regression...

 

Sure a few guys (Tyron Smith, Joe Thomas) have lived up to their name, but this a crap shoot.  We need depth and multiple new starters on this line and we need to take MULTIPLE avenues to acquire these men via draft, FA and UDFAs.

 

Why win the South?  How about making the playoffs two years in a row for the first time in history?  How about breaking this NFC South "Curse" of a different team winning the division every year?  How about rallying to a WINNING record at 8-7-1?  How about being a desirable landing spot for quality FAs?  How about teaching our guys what it takes to win in the playoffs?

We have an extremely flawed team that needs improvement across the board, but we aren't going to get any better by only being able to land a studly first round pick and suck at everything else.  If anything, Marty Hurney should have taught everyone how useless it is to hit a home run in the first only to strike out at every other at bat.

 

They don't care. They want to sacrifice success for a slightly higher draft pick.

[beastson]

If I root for this team to lose, it won't be because of draft picks although is nice to have in times like these where we have a lot of glaring holes and potential ones coming up, but it'll be to get rid of Ron Rivera and bring in a system which coaches actually take some fugin blame instead of being cowards to keep their jobs

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

you know i forgot about this little tidbit re: the rule about draft position/playoff appearances until i read it as part of another article.  but it's not surprising in the least:

 

The rule was changed after the 2008 Chargers went 8-8 and beat the Colts in the playoffs, then turned around and drafted ahead of the Colts and other non-playoff teams based on record.

 

how much do you want to bet this would have happened if the 8-8 chargers would have beaten say the dolphins at home in the playoffs

[Jimmy]

My feelings are feeling quite feelable. 

[Ruff]

Rivera has never won after a bye.

So, um, yeah...

[Ruff]

Also the Browns, besides being a good team, run a 34. Rekt.

[PhillyB]

Rivera has never won after a bye.

So, um, yeah...

 

ron rivera has never lost on november 30!

 

we got this!

[cultclassiccat]

yeah im still on the ship but i've got my life jacket securely fastened.  shula and ron are captains without a rutter.  

 

i want the panthers to win the whole damn thing.  i dont want to see shula, ron or dave given any credit for it.  this is on the players to rally and make a run....they did it last yr so lets hope they put something together for the fans this yr.

[MichaelNewtonII]

THANK GOODELL FOR THE WIN IF WE GET IT GUYS. AP WAS ABOUT TO GO OFF ON US.

[Snake]

I can't see why people think we will beat min. Our line is in shambles and our defense, well it just sucks. It might be a close game but we all know Rivera will screw up at some point. Our team is crap this year and we need to flush it down to NO.

[rmoneyg35]

What's sad is Tampa is one game away from having the top pick and two games behind to win the NFC south.

[GRWatcher]

Why even log on to a football forum then? You already mailed it in for the season. Come back around draft time.

Agree. And, CP, you can mail your draft picks in too. Wouldn't hurt our feelings in the least, actually, if you never posted again. Just my thoughts but, you know, free speech ...

[cbarrier90]

at what point will you assholes realize this is a terribad football team

hard mode: when responding do not use the words "true" and fan"

After the playoff game.

At what point we point and laugh at the rest of the division that we won with Ron Rivera, Mike Shula, and after gutting the team.

(And don't worry, we got Kelvin to tank the combine for us; surely we can make Amari do the same.)

[The Lone Panther]

We're not winning poo until we get a new offensive coordinator and a new offensive line.