I admit it: I'm more relieved that Cam and the team showed out in the 4th quarter than I would've been with a win.

[frash.exe]

You mean coaches like Pete Carroll and John Harbaugh and Tom Coughlin???...winners of the last 3 Super Bowls. Dig a little deeper...only a handful of Super Bowl winning coaches in history were not conservative, defensive minded coaches...the only ones that spring to mind recently are Mike McCarthy and Sean Peyton and then you have to go way back to Mike Shanahan.

13 of the last 15 Super Bowls were won by conservative, defensive minded head coaches.

Well for one Tom Coughlin has an offensive coaching background. Also he won his last Super Bowl with Eli Manning throwing for like 5000 yards, the worst running game in the league, and a bottom five defense according to NFL.com, but let's not let stats get in the way here.

John Harbaugh's background is kind of all over the place, so it's not accurate to put that "conservative, defensive minded HC" label on him either. The 2012 Ravens weren't an elite defensive team, far from it in fact, and they weren't known for an elite offense either, but they did tune it up in the post season. They also did it with Joe Flacco playing lights out for almost 300 yards and 3 TDs a game, after firing Cam Cameron, whom was known for a guy with a vanilla offensive scheme.

You can now go on with your "conservative, defensive geniuses are teh best" rambling or whatever the hell it is you were talking about

[FootballMaestro]

We could easily still win this shytty division.

Either way, Stone face will be here next year collecting on his 15 million dollar contract.

Cam has made numerous 4th quarter comebacks only to have the defense shyt the bed late.

 

Fact>Premise

 

Wait a minute!?

 

You telling me the Panthers are paying this guys $5 mil a year, instead of $3mil for 3 years??

[FootballMaestro]

Here is the deal.  Has Cam shown you enough to make him one of the highest paid QB's in the league?  I know what you are going to say, but you have to think a little farther.

 

 

Is Cam the type player that needs other good/great players around him to make him succeed, or does he make others great?  We bitch, and moan about Cam needing weapons, and needing an OL, and needing decent RB's......we have all done it, but can you effectively surround Cam with those pieces while paying him a large portion of the salary cap.

 

 

We re-sign him, I'm all over it, we don't, and while it would be a big head scratcher for me, I could understand if he wanted to be the highest paid QB in the league.

 

I think that Cam stays, I want Cam to stay, I just hope that it's a positive thing for the Panthers long term.

 

It's the Head Coach/system.

 

Didn't the Panthers over perform on offense when Cam was a rookie after having one of the all time worst offenses ever?

 

Of course, when people picked the Panthers to do well during Rivera/Cam's second year, they tweaked the offense to run more read option, and it was horrible. It wasn't until Hurney was fired, where Rivera and Shula went back to a more conventional offense, which both Cam and the team flourished. Last season, is self explanatory.

 

How do we forget so soon?

[PhillyB]

3-12-1

 

probably

[PantherDynasty]

To be fair, his TD to Philly was well underthrown.

[KJ89]

thought the same thing. (once I slept off my rage).

at least Rivera can't save his job, I figured.