Breaking down that 4th & 1 play..

[Gucci Mane]

We all know this play was going to define the rest of the game. Watching live i was scratching my head at the formation (why distance yourself from the marker?) but i assumed we were going to run power with Cam. Anyways, lets take a look at why this play might not have succeeded...

 

Heres the pre snap look:

We see a single high look, and bringing Avant in motion revealed what looked like man coverage at least on that side. The OLB outside of cotchery is playing wide and keeping outside leverage.

 

 

 

Post snap you can see KB manned up, the safety playing as a centerfielder, and on the right side theres some sort of trap coverage, and since Olsen and Cotch released the way they did, it ended up pretty much being a Cover 1 look, with cotchery manned up with an OLB.

 

Cams first read(see below) after he freezes the safety looks to be KB running a skinny post/slant, but he sees the LB buzzing, so thats a no go.

 

 

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As cam completes his drop back his eyes shift towards the middle of the field, you can see the buzzing linebackers plant and start heading towards the underneath routes. Also notice that the underneath route is still basically at the line of scrimmage and while hindsight might say to still throw that ball, it wasnt a sure thing that there would have been enough room to get the first down(if the ball didnt get batted at the line first).

 

 

Here you can basically see that Cam is looking at what the safety is doing in relation to Olsen running up the seam, and later realizes he has a one on one matchup that he likes.

 

 

 

 

 

After looking at the play a couple of times, its really hard to say what coulda/shoulda happened. I didnt like the throw obviously, but its a matchup you want. The playcall is what bugged me. Shula took 4th and 1 and made it 4th and 6 just because.

 

What do you guys think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[davos]

Poor execution of an awful playcall

[CelibatePimp]

On the fourth pic, it looks like KB had won on the inside (but there was a LB underneath), with no safety over the top, he should have turned it outside and he would have been home and dry.

[CarolinaNCSU]

Honestly the only thing I notice is the OL going from the line of scrimmage, to about 6 yards behind it by the final picture.

 

 

Even when Cam has time, the play calls are laugable and he's being pushed backwards, so if he has to scramble, he's now got a longer hike. 

[CelibatePimp]

And also he had Stewart who could have gotten the first down in the flats, if this was a first or second down, i would agree with the shot Cam took but it's freaking fourth down, pick up the first down and live another day.

[smash_n_dash]

We need a new OC, something everyone has harped on since early last year.

[BIGH2001]

Three deep routes on a 4th and 1 with our QB in the shotgun. Shula takes a high percentage play and makes it a low percentage play. Still think stewart was open out of the backfield there but Cam never looked his way. He ended up throwing a terrible pass out of bounds that had no chance. Cotchery wasn't even close to open anyway.

[Mojo]

Egregious playcall, but that's on Cam too.  Just pick up the first down.

[CelibatePimp]

Honestly the only thing I notice is the OL going from the line of scrimmage, to about 6 yards behind it by the final picture.

 

 

Even when Cam has time, the play calls are laugable and he's being pushed backwards, so if he has to scramble, he's now got a longer hike. 

 

I don't think you can fault the oline on this play, the held and gave him enough time to make a play. There is no oline that will stay on the same yard line the ball was spiked for that long.

 

[beastson]

I was told Olsen was wide open on this play. He had a corner on him along with a safety in the middle

 

Avant was underneath but having to help this weak ass oline delayed his route wit that chip block

 

 

Im my personal opinion for the rest of the season, I would literally do my best Clausen impression if I was Cam. Just dump the poo off, wateva happens whether they get the 1st down or not is on them. Even if it means 3 and outs, so what. fug this coaching staff, slow receivers, weak oline needing help, and 90s offensive system

[Gucci Mane]

And also he had Stewart who could have gotten the first down in the flats, if this was a first or second down, i would agree with the shot Cam took but it's freaking fourth down, pick up the first down and live another day.

 

Watching the play full speed it would have been another tough choice because the LB that buzzed underneath KB planted when he saw stew leaked. I do trust stew in that situation though to break the tackle.

[CelibatePimp]

I was told Olsen was wide open on this play. He had a corner on him along with a safety in the middle

 

Avant was underneath but having to help this weak ass oline delayed his route wit that chip block

 

 

Im my personal opinion for the rest of the season, I would literally do my best Clausen impression if I was Cam. Just dump the poo off, wateva happens whether they get the 1st down or not is on them. Even if it means 3 and outs, so what. fug this coaching staff, slow receivers, weak oline needing help, and 90s offensive system

 

Actually I am just seeing Avant open. A lob to him and he could basically just dive for the first down. Anyways, it's done and I am sure Cam will learn from this tape.

[CelibatePimp]

Watching the play full speed it would have been another tough choice because the LB that buzzed underneath KB planted when he saw stew leaked. I do trust stew in that situation though to break the tackle.

 

That is what Cam must learn, there are other footballers on the team, trust them to make a play, you are not the only one who can make plays. Give them a chance. That was why Olsen was pissed in the end zone on the replay, you could see him throw his hands. Give them an opportunity to make a play.

[beastson]

Actually I am just seeing Avant open. A lob to him and he could basically just dive for the first down. Anyways, it's done and I am sure Cam will learn from this tape.

 

Yea he would have been my choice. At that point it was 24-7 so I guess Cam was looking big instead of small. Cam started to do it later in the game. He should do it for the rest of the season. How Fox used to say it, its just is what it is