Finishing 3-12-1 is a very real possibility the way we've been playing.

[Sam Mills Fan]

As bad as our opponents are the rest of the way, we're probably worse than all of them except maybe Tampa Bay. If we do go from 2-0 to 3-12-1 or 4-11-1, what do you expect to happen? Will Jerry Richardson suck it up and fire Rivera? DO you think we would dumb enough to trade Cam and possibly have 2 very high draft picks in April? SOMETHING drastic would have to happen at that point, no?

[CRA]

3 wins is low enough Ron would be fired.

Ron needs to get to 6-7 wins IMO to have good odds

[Sam Mills Fan]

If I could just respond to my own thread: I think this organization wants to avoid having high draft picks. I bet they'll try to trade down and compile a megaton worth of picks in Late Round 1 and on. The trend of drafting All-World players in Round 1 that you'll have to give big money to after their rookie contracts while never getting anything of value later in the draft will soon cripple this team (if it hasn't done so already) for years depth-wise.

[Carolina Cajun]

Point differential tells the tale. Panthers are -88 in the differential department. How bad is that? 6th worse in the nfl. We're better than Jacksonville, Tampa bay, Oakland, The New York jets, and St. Louis. Frankly that list coincides with what I seeing the field, these are our peer teams right now, and I'm afraid during the 1-6-1 stretch we could be even worse than some on that list. Our line hasn't played well, and we are missing parts, but there is something to the fact that legit franchise and pro bowl qbs don't get the luxury of top 5 draft picks. I am growing unsure of cams future ceiling with us.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

I know its an unpopular stance but something sticks in my craw about firing the reigning coach of the year.  Agreed that he is the face of the debacle but to me Gettleman has failed with putting him in a position to be successful. I also wonder if the Shula hire was forced on him from within.   I would love to see what is/has been going on behind closed doors on Mint St. 

[Hotsauce]

Possibility????

More like reality.

We are going to score only 6 more TDs the rest of the season and the rest will be FGs

[Captain Obvious]

that tie is going to give us a fit later. We will fall a few spots in the draft because of it. fugging tie, smdh.

[Sam Mills Fan]

I know its an unpopular stance but something sticks in my craw about firing the reigning coach of the year.  Agreed that he is the face of the debacle but to me Gettleman has failed with putting him in a position to be successful. I also wonder if the Shula hire was forced on him from within.   I would love to see what is/has been going on behind closed doors on Mint St. 

 

That award was bestowed by the AP, not voted on by the NFL. It was 100% because the Panthers beat expectations (also set by the AP and media) and because of the successful Riverboating gimmick that suddenly no longer works when you have no offensive line or Mike Tolbert. No one ever thought Ron Rivera was a good coach, did they?

[Paa Langfart]

he is the face of the debacle but to me Gettleman has failed with putting him in a position to be successful. 

 

 Ron Rivera - 1 winning season out of 4.  Likely the worst Panthers head coach of all time.

 

[hepcat]

The only way Ron Rivera should keep his job is if they somehow manage to rally and make the playoffs.  I know it looks bleak but two consecutive playoff appearances would be enough that he should be given another chance.  Granted, that means the team would have to look a lot better than they did last night, and there's little chance of that happening.  It's scary that the freaking Atlanta Falcons could come in and absolutely embarrass the Panthers next Sunday.

[UNCrules2187]

I think we've got 2 more wins left in us this season: vs ATL, vs TB. I would say @ MIN, but that's coming off a bye (Ron is historically bad on post-bye/more than 7 days off) and could potentially get Peterson back by the time we play them. Cleveland is better coached and will have Josh Gordon back. We'll get slaughtered by NO in the dome (and probably ATL in the dome as well). 

 

5-10-1

[Mr. Scot]

3 wins is low enough Ron would be fired.

Ron needs to get to 6-7 wins IMO to have good odds

 

I'm not so sure 6 wins is enough.

 

[Snake]

He needs 7 wins to even be considered coming back. The way it looks we might beat ATL at home but that's not a given and we might beat Tampa but I see Lovie trying to finish strong for next year. That 5 wins and puts us about where Rivera stands as a head coach. 

[CRA]

Ron Rivera - 1 winning season out of 4. Likely the worst Panthers head coach of all time.

How old are you? Serious question bc worst coach isn't a debate. Seifert owns that honor.