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Your the GM, how do you fix this train wreck?

uncpanther

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DaveThePanther2008 Grand Master

DaveThePanther2008

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The issue isn't Rivera.  IMO the issue is two fold. 

 

1. Our offense has ZERO imagination.   I was watching the other night where there were 4 and 5 WR sets and running the ball. 

 

2. It wouldn't matter because we don't have enough people to execute it.

 

I do believe the defensive scheme is good and we should try and retain that mentality.  I think we had our issues but they seem to be playing better.   5 turnovers even the best defense in the league is not going to save us.

 

As the GM.  The Offensive line is without a doubt the biggest issue I would address.   Just like in 2013 we addressed the Defensive line, Now we must address the offensive line.

 

We have to let Hardy walk,.  Gotta happen.  We have to have some cash to address a top-flight free agent OT to care for Cam.  NO IFs, ANDs or BUTs about it. 

 

As much as I hate the Thrift Store mentality of Gettleman.  You have to continue finding talent at the rock bottom value until we get out of this mess.

 

Look Gettleman did not promise 2013 success.  He got some good talent and they meshed well with our schemes.  This year many of those didn't pan out the way they did in 2013.  

 

Gettleman has a plan and we have to believe that this is the ONLY way to fix it. 

 

As GM I think Shula has proved he cannot run an offense.  Teams take away one thing and Shula hides like Coach Klien (Waterboy reference).  We have a gifted QB and with the right mind behind it.  He will thrive in an imaginative offense. Shula has zero imagination.   Steve Smith is a prime example.  Production declined and with a good OC Steve Smith is on a pace for 1148 yds.  I know spilled milk but if he was productive last year than we probably would not have canned in in 2014.

 

I would put Rivera on a short leash but would not can him just yet. 

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UKPanther94 Newbie

UKPanther94

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New OC, very possibly new HC as well

Blow up the whole O-line and start again, Norwell, Turner and Kalil are probably the only ones worth keeping

Patch up the defense, especially safeties in FA, since the defense has gone back to being half decent last few weeks (even though the points totals dont suggest it, but that's as much on the offense) I think we can fix the problems through there, maybe a late draft pick here or there

Two offensive lineman with the first two picks in the draft, unless there's a glaringly obvious BPA on the board, then deep threat WR followed by RB

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Go ahead and fire Shula, no reason to keep him around. It will send message out to the team and we MIGHT get lucky and break the space time continuum and win out. That won't happen though lol

So after we finish 6-9-1 (Falcons, Bucs, Vikings) we fire Rivera, Shula, and let the new coach decide on McDermott. Really only two coaches should be considered for HC job and they're Gus Malzahn and Hue Jackson. IMO the two holy grails for team needing a head coach. We use our top 10pick on an OT or a speed WR and then address the other at some point in the draft. I see something along the lines of

1st - WR/OL

2nd - WR/OL

3rd - DB

4th - DB

5th - RB

And so on

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ncfan Grand Master

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Can Shula, pick up Lane Kiffin OC.  This will not be popular by no means but the guy can coach an offense.  The guy has that fiery personality which would be good for Cam imo.

 

FA's

 

JPP: We need to get back to the strength.  JPP in the line to replace Hardy is what we need.  Also a former guy Gettleman scouted.  Give Ealy another year to groom before we part ways with CJ the next year, letting him slide into the starting spot

 

Brandon Tate:  Decent return man and 3rd WR like Ginn was

 

Bruce Carter: Athletic LB.  Perfect to play under Rivera and Shadow Luke/TD.  Could replace TD down the road.

 

Draft:

 

1st:  Trade with Browns.  I'd love Cooper but think we can get a better value trading the pick to Cleveland.  The Browns filled some holes last year.  but with the uncertainty of Gordon, Cooper sitting there would make their mouth water.  So the 2 first rounders for Cooper would be a deal for a team like us who multiple needs

 

1st #1: La'El Collins-  Kids has the tools to be good LT.  If not could be a force at RT, Think a Healthy Otah if not possibly better (would make our RB's feel like christmas day with the thought of that beside Turner)

 

1st #2: DeVante Parker- Now he is no slouch either and would be perfectly with KB.  Kids name was thrown around as a potential 2nd rounder in Last years super deep WR class.  He came back but missed the first part of the year, since hes returned he has dominated.  Reminds me a little of a poor mans Dez Bryant (talent wise)

 

2nd: Spencer Drago/ Flowers-  If Drago comes out and falls to here jump all over it.  If not Flowers would be good.  Whoever it is will compete with Collins for LT.  The loser will get RT

 

3rd: Laken Tomlinson- Athletic, Smart Kid with all the tools.  Amini has looked decent when Healthy, but thats the key word when Healthy.  He seems worse than Stewart when it comes to that.  If he can stay healthy and look good.  We just built some Depth at a spot you need depth, look at this year.  Think Tomlinson could beat out Amini anyways.

 

4th: Terry Williams- Depth in the Trenches.  Where you win ball games.  Star when we drafted him, the biggest concern was him playing to many snaps and wearing down.  He has not looked the same this year, think mainly to being on the field more.  With teams having much more success against our D this year keeping them on the field along with our Offensive failures he has played many of snaps.   Williams would be perfect for those times to give Star a breather.

 

5th-7th: BPA

 

We have a ton of holes, but people need to remember we had a really good year last year.  Worry about fixing those holes from last year first (Hardy and Gross).  Get that front 7 back to what it was. We can add the DB's but when team can run on us, its not going to any good on 3rd and 3-5 with our zone D where DB's are 5-7 yards off the WR.  Worry about the trenches and getting after the QB.  Ask Cam this year how taking hit after hit after hit effects you mentally.  Then a nice overhaul to this OL is needed.

 

So 2015:

 

QB: Cam, DA

RB: Stewart, Dwill

FB: Tolbert

WR1: KB

WR2: Parker

TE: Olson

LT: Drago (or Flowers)

LG: Tomlinson, Amini

C: Kalil

RG: Turner

RT: Collins

 

DE: JPP

DT: Star

DT: Short

DE: CJ, Ealy

OLB: TD

MLB: Luke

OLB: Carter

CB: White

FS: Boston

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rayzor Grand Master

rayzor

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this week, fire the ST coach and replace him with dehaven.

next loss, fire shula and replace him with ramsdell and give him complete control over the offense. then hire an old coach to manage the game, cutting off rivera's balls.

next loss after that, we fire mcdermott and tell rivera that he's next if he can't get the defense back on track.

oh...and gettleman trades for at least one OT. use picks from next years draft (anything after round 2 or 3 is acceptable.

if gettleman doesn't make the team more balanced and at least get cam some more protection and fox the secondary, then he's fired after next year.

results are all that matter.

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