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After 4 straight Subpar performances...


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The easiest way to deal with a homer like WOW!! is to realize he'd be placing next to no blame on Jay Cutler, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Derrick Carr, Blake Bortles, Andy Dalton, or RGIII if he were a fan of those teams.

 

Again, 95% of the guys with a Cam avatar should just be ignored. 

 

Anyone with half a brain knows the O-line isn't helping, Shula isn't helping, and the WRs aren't helping. But they also know Cam is actually playing quite poorly despite his beat-up body.

 

The Cam Avatar Crew thinks 99% of Cam's poor play is due to those other things and those other things alone. 

 

Sad really.

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Also, I'D HOPE Cam would play lights out with better play calling, better WRs, and a better O-line. Christ.

 

THE DIFFERENCE is that elite QBs can still win games when some of those things go south. Brady can still win games with terrible WRs. Big Ben gets sacked all the damn time. Brees make adjustments all the damn time when the called play isn't working.

 

Cam has a lot of growing he still needs to do. I hope he comes out the other side of it a winner. And a winner as a Panther.

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The easiest way to deal with a homer like WOW!! is to realize he'd be placing next to no blame on Jay Cutler, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Derrick Carr, Blake Bortles, Andy Dalton, or RGIII if he were a fan of those teams.

Again, 95% of the guys with a Cam avatar should just be ignored.

Anyone with half a brain knows the O-line isn't helping, Shula isn't helping, and the WRs aren't helping. But they also know Cam is actually playing quite poorly despite his beat-up body.

The Cam Avatar Crew thinks 99% of Cam's poor play is due to those other things and those other things alone.

Sad really.

I'm glad non Panthers fans see me as a homer. I'm good with that.

But to be Homer don't you have to defend the whole team when they fug up not just one player??

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So, I'll just leave my opinion here. 

 

Cam, has shown flashes of brilliance, but damn guys, he's now 25, entering his prime. In a few years, he won't be doing the whole "scrambling" or "read-options" anymore simply because of age. If he didn't have that ability, he wouldn't be a top 15 QB for sure. If we are measuring QB quality through purely passing plays, I'd say Cam is below average. I remember analysts used to compare him to Andy Dalton, an opinion I wholeheartedly agree with. Always a lot of potential, but too inconsistent to trust. Cam's passing has been erratic, and he has been given 4 years to improve his mechanics. We still see overthrows, and we still see poor decisions. I would take rookie year Cam over current Cam, and Newton has not shown enough progress to be considered for a contract near $20 mil. No one is gonna pay Cam Cutler money. Won't happen. 

 

He showed signs of improvement last year, but this year, it's been a nightmare. Sure, the OL sucks, RBs suck, yada yada yada. Brady never complained when his #1's left, instead, he made his new receivers better. Not to be cliché, but that is the distinction between a good QB and an elite QB. Cam hasn't shown that ability.

 

Hell, Luck had an unproven T.Y. Hilton and an aging Reggie Wayne, and I can argue that Luck, 100%, turned T.Y into the stud he is today. So, for all the Luck lovers I poo on throughout the years, I will eat a plate of crow for you. Luck > Cam.

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So, I'll just leave my opinion here.

Cam, has shown flashes of brilliance, but damn guys, he's now 25, entering his prime. In a few years, he won't be doing the whole "scrambling" or "read-options" anymore simply because of age. If he didn't have that ability, he wouldn't be a top 15 QB for sure. If we are measuring QB quality through purely passing plays, I'd say Cam is below average. I remember analysts used to compare him to Andy Dalton, an opinion I wholeheartedly agree with. Always a lot of potential, but too inconsistent to trust. Cam's passing has been erratic, and he has been given 4 years to improve his mechanics. We still see overthrows, and we still see poor decisions. I would take rookie year Cam over current Cam, and Newton has not shown enough progress to be considered for a contract near $20 mil. No one is gonna pay Cam Cutler money. Won't happen.

He showed signs of improvement last year, but this year, it's been a nightmare. Sure, the OL sucks, RBs suck, yada yada yada. Brady never complained when his #1's left, instead, he made his new receivers better. Not to be cliché, but that is the distinction between a good QB and an elite QB. Cam hasn't shown that ability.

Hell, Luck had an unproven T.Y. Hilton and an aging Reggie Wayne, and I can argue that Luck, 100%, turned T.Y into the stud he is today. So, for all the Luck lovers I poo on throughout the years, I will eat a plate of crow for you. Luck > Cam.

We keep using example that don't fit the situation Cam is in now.

Brady nor any other QB has ever overcome

Bad play calling

Bad Oline

little to no weapons

in their 4th year

Like some of you are asking Cam to do.

What fan here wouldn't trade Luck supporting cast for Cam's and Pep Hamilton at OC???

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We keep using example that don't fit the situation Cam is in now.

Brady nor any other QB has ever overcome

Bad play calling

Bad Oline

little to no weapons

in their 4th year

Like some of you are asking Cam to do.

What fan here wouldn't trade Luck supporting cast for Cam's and Pep Hamilton at OC?

 

So when in this homer world that you've created for yourself does a good quarterback throw a pick and a pick 6 in the first 5 minutes with NO PRESSURE?

 

We know he hasn't got the best supporting class, but up until today he had one of the best rookie receivers in the league and a top 2-3 receiving TE. 

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The only issue that I am still having with Cam is that his mechanics still suck.  Too straight in the pocket....still throwing off his back foot....still throwing way too many passes high.  Those are the things that I would have expected improvement in at this stage of his career.

 

 

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Looked mighty good then Ron gave him the middle finger and trotted gano out there for the loss that became a tie

 

That was the turning point of our season.  That decision by RR took the air out of the team.  You had an offensive unit that was playing fairly well and had put up 30+ points and you take them off the field to have your weaker unit, who had given up 30+ points, in to win/save the game.  The fact that we tied is pure luck thanks to Cin's crappy kicker.

 

RR basically told the offense he had no faith in what they were doing and they haven't been the same since.

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I have no problem admitting Cam is struggling but it gets kind of annoying when people keep comparing him to this 16 year vet/HOF or this 13 year Vet/HOF or this 12 year vet/HOF when he has yet to even finish his fourth year. The only person I really have no problems with the comparisons is Luck but even he was declared as the "greatest QB prospect in a decade/ever." Overall Cam has done pretty good for someone who never played a pro offense and people thought should ride the bench and learn behind Jimmy Clausen.

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The only issue that I am still having with Cam is that his mechanics still suck. Too straight in the pocket....still throwing off his back foot....still throwing way too many passes high. Those are the things that I would have expected improvement in at this stage of his career.

This is a direct reflection of the piss poor coaching that he's been getting. This staff has failed to develop a promising young franchise QB and for that reason alone they should be fired.

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Hey guys, Cam is single-handedly dragging down this storied franchise. Without Cam in the way, we are a sleeping juggernaut. We just need to grab an elite QB, from the big bag, like the other 32 teams. There are 32 franchise QB's, right? Oh wait, there are actually only 31, 'cuz Cam isn't...right? Some of you all are fuging clowns.

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