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We have no offense. No defense. No special teams. This is Gettleman's fault and he should be fired.


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1. From all reports they didn't trust Hardy to do a long-term deal with before the incident. .. So why franchise (rent) his services for 1 year for 13 million. When you're screaming "we're broke"..

2. James Hurst in the 6th S Henderson in the 7th maybe Morgan Moses over Ealy (Everett Brown 2. 0) in the 2nd round. Again no team in a NFL HISTORY has went into a season with more Un-drafted Olinemen then drafted ones. And no team in NFL HISTORY has went into a season with no drafted OT on the roster.. So Dave made history with this poo..... clap clap clap....

3. We are paying Smith more to play in Baltimore then Baltimore is... How smart is that???

 

1. Prove it deal. We're reluctant to give a long term deal at the price you want so prove for yet another season (2nd contract year in a row) that you can produce. Looks smart that they did this rather than cave and give a massive long term deal.

 

2. As I said, his 6th round pick could have been better. OK, we agree on that. Damn you Dave, why aren't you hitting home runs with your 6th rounders every year, you suck buddy.

 

3. We = Hurney. DG had zero to do with the dead money Smith is being paid.

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In fairness JR told Dave he could not fire Rivera. I think his mind may change though.

Yup, you're right. I remembered it wrong, I thought JR made Gettleman evaluate him the minute he got in. This sounds even worse. "Lol fix our team. Btw, you can't sign your own coaching staff and you are 16 mil over the cap. Good luck..."

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/01/05/3765389/ron-rivera-keeps-his-job-as-carolina.html

Jerry Richardson does not have a clue when it comes to running a winning franchise

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1. Prove it deal. We're reluctant to give a long term deal at the price you want so prove for yet another season (2nd contract year in a row) that you can produce. Looks smart that they did this rather than cave and give a massive long term deal.

 

2. As I said, his 6th round pick could have been better. OK, we agree on that. Damn you Dave, why aren't you hitting home runs with your 6th rounders every year, you suck buddy.

 

3. We = Hurney. DG had zero to do with the dead money Smith is being paid.

 

 

I think you're wrong on point 3 man...cutting him is what posted that dead money there right? I mean we would have had to pay him a poo ton later on anyway so it actually does end up saving us down the road but I think we have to put that dead money on Gettleman.

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Ray Brown and and Coach Masko have the credential and get high praises from all former Linemen. Ask Frank Gracie who speaks highly of them all the time.

 

You mean the guys that are coaching Bell and Chandler right now?

 

Not exactly a solid argument you're crafting here.

 

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Evan Mathis was a horrible Panther..but a All Pro in a Philly.

Maybe Moses here is better then Moses I in Washington. .

Again has Bell or Chandler proven they are better then any option we could have tried???

NO!!!!

So you're willing to give Evan Mathis four years to become a good player (which is how long it took), but kony ealy gets a little over a half a season before he is a bust. And yeah I'm sure Moses would look great playing next to silatolu, I read on walterfootball he had a first round grade!

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I think you're wrong on point 3 man...cutting him is what posted that dead money there right? I mean we would have had to pay him a poo ton later on anyway so it actually does end up saving us down the road but I think we have to put that dead money on Gettleman.

 

no, the dead money is there either way from his previous contract that he signed with Hurney

 

there's literally nothing anyone can do about this outside of changing the entire way the NFL handles cap hits

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1. Prove it deal. We're reluctant to give a long term deal at the price you want so prove for yet another season (2nd contract year in a row) that you can produce. Looks smart that they did this rather than cave and give a massive long term deal.

2. As I said, his 6th round pick could have been better. OK, we agree on that. Damn you Dave, why aren't you hitting home runs with your 6th rounders every year, you suck buddy.

3. We = Hurney. DG had zero to do with the dead money Smith is being paid.

1. 13 million and the lost of a lot flexibility on a "prove it deal" really? ?

That's incompetence on a GM part..

2. I named other pick in other round plus this wasn't the only way to get OT. Maybe not sign garbage FA like Harper, Dickson, Cason, Avant. USE THAT MONEY ON A Solid FA OT..

3. HURNEY didn't get rid of Steve for personal reason. DG did that..

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So you're willing to give Evan Mathis four years to become a good player (which is how long it took), but kony ealy gets a little over a half a season before he is a bust. And yeah I'm sure Moses would look great playing next to silatolu, I read on walterfootball he had a first round grade!

Koby Ealy wasn't a need plus he was dropping as a prospect.. OT was a need.

Plus the Evan Mathis point was that different coaching might get the best out of player. .

Like Moses who was a top 1st or 2nd round talent might be better here with Masko in this system then Washington. .

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no, the dead money is there either way from his previous contract that he signed with Hurney

 

there's literally nothing anyone can do about this outside of changing the entire way the NFL handles cap hits

 

There would be no dead money if he played out his entire career here so how could that be?

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So instead of drafting the BPA at the bottom of the second round and complaining about Gettleman not addressing a need, we should've drafted Moses, watched him play like poo wearing a panthers jersey, and then complained about Gettleman not being good at evaluating talent instead

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