This coming from my wife, a very casual football fan

[Panthers_Lover]

Your post is stupid. Don't tell me about PR you twit. I have a degree in it. Do I tell you about all your pseudo psycho mumbo jumbo? Your opinions are just that: opinions. They aren't based on anything more than your own limited beliefs.

 

Seriously? It's what I do for a living, and what Panthers55 says is the truth. You don't go airing all that in a news conference. Yes, you can give reassurances to your constituents (fans), but you don't call people out. You address as best you can what you can in the press conferences, but you deal with those details in the background. You don't throw people under the bus like that.

[Peppers90 NC]

Seriously? It's what I do for a living, and what Panthers55 says is the truth. You don't go airing all that in a news conference. Yes, you can give reassurances to your constituents (fans), but you don't call people out. You address as best you can what you can in the press conferences, but you deal with those details in the background. You don't throw people under the bus like that.

yea i dont know why people think they need to hear what their wives think they see. i guess totally throwing everyone under the bus, dividing the locker room and losing respect from players is what they want, until, uhm it happens and then what? 24 hours hasnt happened yet for the majority of the dumb to be removed.

[Daeavorn]

Seriously? It's what I do for a living, and what Panthers55 says is the truth. You don't go airing all that in a news conference. Yes, you can give reassurances to your constituents (fans), but you don't call people out. You address as best you can what you can in the press conferences, but you deal with those details in the background. You don't throw people under the bus like that.

 

Except for the fact that this kind of terrible PR can destroy franchises. If the fans think the HC and the GM don't care, then why should they. These guys NEED to be seen actually giving a poo, that's why so many people hate the stoic bs that Rivera does. 

 

DG not saying anything just creates an echo chamber (which this forum is close to becoming) of circle jerking. He should take responsibility and let the fans know he is aware and working on fixing these problems. 

 

This is exactly the time to say something.

[panthers55]

Seriously? It's what I do for a living, and what Panthers55 says is the truth. You don't go airing all that in a news conference. Yes, you can give reassurances to your constituents (fans), but you don't call people out. You address as best you can what you can in the press conferences, but you deal with those details in the background. You don't throw people under the bus like that.

Exactly,  I guess the difference is between what they teach you in a textbook and what actually happens in the real world. Plus it depends on what side you are on.  Journalists and writers want to hear about the dirt and the controversy in a press conference but the guys conducting the press conference like the Panthers know the ramifications of doing that in real life.

[panthers55]

Except for the fact that this kind of terrible PR can destroy franchises. If the fans think the HC and the GM don't care, then why should they. These guys NEED to be seen actually giving a poo, that's why so many people hate the stoic bs that Rivera does. 

 

DG not saying anything just creates an echo chamber (which this forum is close to becoming) of circle jerking. He should take responsibility and let the fans know he is aware and working on fixing these problems. 

 

This is exactly the time to say something.

Of curse they give a poo.  It is their jobs on the line.  DG is not in a position to fix anything 10 games into the season.  It isn't as if there are a ton of guys who could come in and help.  He will address the issue at season end which is appropriate and make changes then.  There is nothing that he could say that would change anything but better performance on the field which is exactly what they will continue to try and do for the next 6 weeks.   

[top dawg]

Seriously? It's what I do for a living, and what Panthers55 says is the truth. You don't go airing all that in a news conference. Yes, you can give reassurances to your constituents (fans), but you don't call people out. You address as best you can what you can in the press conferences, but you deal with those details in the background. You don't throw people under the bus like that.

Where did I say call people out, and all that foolishness? That is P-55‘s stupidity. A general statement acknowledging that there are some problems that will be addressed, and assuring fans and customers is all I stated that was necessary.

[Panthers_Lover]

Except for the fact that this kind of terrible PR can destroy franchises. If the fans think the HC and the GM don't care, then why should they. These guys NEED to be seen actually giving a poo, that's why so many people hate the stoic bs that Rivera does. 

 

DG not saying anything just creates an echo chamber (which this forum is close to becoming) of circle jerking. He should take responsibility and let the fans know he is aware and working on fixing these problems. 

 

This is exactly the time to say something.

 

Seen as "giving a poo" is quite different from addressing what "every grandpa, wife, girlfriend, etc." sees and "knows." If fans think DG or JJR aren't "aware" and working on the problems, then they're crazy. Of course, they are ... it's their livelihoods.

[Panthers_Lover]

Where did I say call people out, and all that foolishness? That is P-55‘s stupidity. A general statement acknowledging that there are some problems that will be addressed, and assuring fans and customers is all I stated that was necessary.

 

I guess I think that's a given (see my post above) ... that they are aware and are addressing the issues.

[panthers55]

Where did I say call people out, and all that foolishness? That is P-55‘s stupidity. A general statement acknowledging that there are some problems that will be addressed, and assuring fans and customers is all I stated that was necessary.

I said you don't call people out and do your business in private and you called me ignorant and stupid and said I know nothing.  She agreed with me and now you are saying you did nothing wrong and are still calling me stupid.  Seems to me you are the one overreacting here.  Isn't part of journalism knowing when to be quiet and let it go.  Perhaps this is the time........

[dunnlx]

Fvhk it. Leave his tired ass out there. I hope they feast on his dumbass.

Can you play QB?

[MadHatter]

So now we are starting threads about what our kids and wives are saying during the game about how bad the Panthers are.

 

The Huddle has hit an all time low.

[top dawg]

I guess I think that's a given (see my post above) ... that they are aware and are addressing the issues.

Not trying to insult your professionalism or intelligence in any type of way (like some assholes that shall remain nameless), but one of the things that I was taught many moons ago is to never assume anything. That being said, this is more about P-55's trying to put words in my mouth and insult me on the down low. He goes through these periods where he tries to take his opinions and pass them off as fact. Every blue moon, I call him on his bullshit.

[Panthers_Lover]

Not trying to insult your professionalism or intelligence in any type of way (like some assholes that shall remain nameless), but one of the things that I was taught many moons ago is to never assume anything. That being said, this is more about P-55's trying to put words in my mouth and insult me on the down low. He goes through these periods where he tries to take his opinions and pass them off as fact. Every blue moon, I call him on his bullshit.

 

I certainly don't want to get in the middle of the two of you.

 

What I was saying is that it really doesn't always help to state what should be obvious ... speaking from "this" side. I know what the fans/customers may want to hear, but it's not necessarily what you can or should give them ... depending on circumstances. They also don't want to be patronized, and you don't want to come off as sounding like you're doing that.

 

In my head keeps running our sort of rehearsed line ... "the safety and well-being of our (constituents) is our primary concern." It's something we must say in certain situations ... but it's also a "given." If we don't say it, do people assume that we've not concerned about that? I certainly hope not.

 

[top dawg]

I certainly don't want to get in the middle of the two of you.

What I was saying is that it really doesn't always help to state what should be obvious ... speaking from "this" side. I know what the fans/customers may want to hear, but it's not necessarily what you can or should give them ... depending on circumstances. They also don't want to be patronized, and you don't want to come off as sounding like you're doing that.

In my head keeps running our sort of rehearsed line ... "the safety and well-being of our (constituents) is our primary concern." It's something we must say in certain situations ... but it's also a "given." If we don't say it, do people assume that we've not concerned about that? I certainly hope not.

I get it. I just believe that there is something that can be said, and not in a way that appears patronizing.

Not trying to sound elitist, even though I probably do, but the masses have proven themselves to be intellectually limited IMO. But that's probably for another forum. W.E.B. Dubious thought along similar lines...