Fans gloom and doom after one preseason game still amazes me.

[Highlandfire]

It is preseason folks, thats all. We are not going to show anything that we will be doing in the regular season esp to a team like the Giants.

You want to get out of preseason healthy, get some work for the vets as a warm up and then see what depth you have. That's it.

As for as the Giants game, we went with the same front, same coverages the whole game. No shifting, no stunts, no blitzes, no dropping the Mike backer deep like we might do on passing downs...nothing. Just plain vanilla. Our DL pretty much lined up 5, 1, 3, 5 the whole night. NYG on the other hand seemed to run everything they could on offense at us and we still didn't exactly suck. On offense, we went blah as hell and still ran the ball well.

Guys I am not upset with the performance at all, it is game one of preseason thats all. Now do we still need some help at DT? Sure, but I am still not alarmed too much yet. Still 3 games to go and about 4 weeks before we kick off for real.

Relax

[PanthaSan]

You are right.

I will wait 5 weeks before I post a "Start Moore" or a "Fire Fox" thread...

[Kettle]

:iagree:

[E CaT PanTHer]

I completely agree. It also seemed like the Giants game planned a little bit more, considering it was monday night and it was at their house. I'm not worried at all.

[Paul_Menegay]

Detroit went 4-0 in last years preseason...apparently they mean nothing...Cat fans need to just calm down a little.

[DaCityKats]

i agree to a certain point......our 1s look like poo tho.

[kungfoodude]

Valid point, but the biggest weakness that might have been exposed was our general lack of depth. Which we can thank the decision to keep Peppers and destroy our salary cap on....

[DaCityKats]

if other teams do fine with franchised players why we can't.....i find it hard to blame jp for this.

[kungfoodude]

Oh, it is completely not Peppers fault. Who can blame the guy for not wanting to be here? However, the team's decision to trap him here has and will continue to cost us dearly, I predict.

[bredy087]

Most panther fans will be all doom and gloom after any loss, I've come to accept it. As long as they have Delhomme to blame doom and gloom will always be here.

[pstall]

I would like to see all the message boards of other teams after the first preseason loss and see thier reaction.

Its called fans.

That comes with the territory.

[firstdayfan]

I agree with some of what has been said except for a few things...

1) Nobody cares about the wins and losses so stop the comparisons with the Lions being 4-0 last year or how the Observer ran a story about when the panthers were 2-2 in two of the years we went to the playoffs. The wins and losses are a non issue and it irritates me that people keep using that as an arguement to preseason's unimportance.

2) Yeah we were vanilla but believe me they were too. They didn't gameplan any more than we did, and they ran some pretty basic stuff at us, Coughlin is much smarter than that.

3) I think people are most upset with the run defense and how the offense just didn't seem to click. I watched all the preseason games prior to this and to be honest there were much sharper teams in their first preseason game than we were, but also some that were much worse.

With all that said I agree that the doom and gloom is pretty ridiculous. People who are angry at Gamble for that missed tackle are crazy and Godfrey missed a few tackles but its early and he is better in coverage anyway. Jarrett really never got a chance since Jake was out of synch and the special teams always gives up a big return or two in the preseason. Then there is the other side of the coversation, Jeremy Leman looked good and may make the roster but he isn't the savior at linebacker. I even heard people praising Beavers and Monk who each had one catch.

What we should take away from this game is that we had no injuries, the 1st team offense ran the ball well, Nick Hayden is a chump, and the backups played hard, we have a long way to go before the beginning of the season.

[kungfoodude]

In fairness, I was already in doom and gloom mode before training camp.

But really, from the fans who are eternally optimistic, can you legitimately tell me that we are a BETTER team than last year? Did we actually improve in the offseason? If nothing else, based on personnel alone.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

Most panther fans will be all doom and gloom after any loss, I've come to accept it. As long as they have Delhomme to blame doom and gloom will always be here.

Exactly. Most fairweather fans know nothing about the team and are content to bash Jake, as if he's the only player on the team.

After McCown through the interception of a tipped pass the other night, my friend texted me "Classic Delhomme." Then a minute later he wrote, "My bad, only half watching."

All of my friends who call themselves "Panthers fans" are like this. Everything that goes wrong on the team is due to Jake, and any nice play Jake makes is due to Smith.