SI.com ranks Rivera in "Hottest of Hot Seat" Tier

[panthers55]

I wouldn't be dead certain of that.

So what have you heard that suggests that he is losing the locker room?

[panthers55]

The only two? That's actually two out of three. Not good odds for Rivera. Don't kid yourself, they were fired because they lost too many games.

The losing was due to losing the confidence of the players. They went hand in hand. After the Collins incident it was clear that Capers has lost the team. Seifert was disliked by the players from the start and didnt try to win them over. He was chosen only because of his record and past performance. When he went 1-15 it was clear he couldn't do that either and there was no reason to keep him.

[panthers55]

'Good coach' speaking in general terms, I agree.

Good coach as in has the right skill set to be a head coach at the NFL level though?

To that, I have to say no.

wasnt he coach of the year in 2013 ? That would suggest you are in the minority.

[Mr. Scot]

So what have you heard that suggests that he is losing the locker room?

Not me directly.

wasnt he coach of the year in 2013 ? That would suggest you are in the minority.

More than one 'coach of the year' has wound up unemployed within a few years of their award.

[Davidson Deac II]

In context he improved for all three seasons over the previous year so while the first 2 were losing seasons he inherited a team with some potential but only a handful of actual stars coming off a 2-14 season. So really this might be the first year we actually took a turn for the worse. Given the mass changes, no one expected us to be good, so how can you blame Rivera when he does the best he can with what he has to work with. .Really the best most folks could do with this group.

 

Fwiw, I am not saying he deserves to be fired, only that he might be because of 3 out of 4 seasons have been losing seasons.

 

To quote Clint Eastwood from Unforgiven, "deserving's got nothing to do with it". 

[panthers55]

Not me directly.

More than one 'coach of the year' has wound up unemployed within a few years of their award.

They might have gotten fired because the definition of NFL is not for long. But how many of them didn't even the skill to be a head NFL coach as you suggest.

[Mr. Scot]

They might have gotten fired because the definition of NFL is not for long. But how many of them didn't even the skill to be a head NFL coach as you suggest.

A lot of coordinators don't (Capers for example).

[pantherclaw]

To be accurate, Ron is on the "Could be on the bubble."

But why would the OP want to be accurate?

[panthers55]

A lot of coordinators don't (Capers for example).

Lots is a huge overstatement. You went all the way back to 1996 for that example which is 17 years ago. Sure you could add a few others like Dick Jauron in 2001, Jim Haslett in 2000. But since then the only guy you could argue would be possibly Marvin Lewis in 2009. Without going back to before we were even a franchise, Many more were successful coordinators and qualified to be head coaches.

[Whitaker 24]

Fisher really on hot seat w the rams?

[Byrdman4real]

I'd like to see the reaction if Rivera was fired and Shula was made head coach. Haha, wow. Nightmares.

Ticket sales would explode in an all time low

[Anybodyhome]

Obviously, you guys do know what the "hot seat" in Carolina means, right? 

 

 

 

It means he might get canned within the the next 2 years.... nothing gets done in Charlotte with any sense of urgency.

 

 

 

 

Does this look like a guy who is in a hurry to do anything?

 

[bandu]

Fisher really on hot seat w the rams?

Fisher hasn't had a winning season in the past four years and is probably the most overrated coach in the NFL.

[TN05]

It's Rivera's fault Gettleman tore his team apart?