Is Cam Newton the next Jay Cutler?

[Cary Kollins]

I believe he means fall apart physically, like Vick, who can't stay healthy anymore.

And sadly, he has a point.

Granted, Newton is definitely tougher than Vick ever was, but it's easy to tell from recent games that the beating he's taken is wearing him down.

At this point, I'm way more worried about Newton becoming another David Carr than another Jay Cutler.

David Carr?

What the fug is wrong with you people?

[Donald LaFell]

All of this bickering will go away if Cam plays better and we win.

[Peppers90 NC]

I'm sorry but if you see Newtons pocket you understand why his throws are off. Let's play the game of spot the clean pocket.

yea but it doesnt take a great QB to play great in a clean pocket every play. look at Foles last year.

 

what i dont quite understand here is that the unconditional Newton defenders will tell us he deserves huge money but also needs a great running game, a great line and more weapons to be given a real chance to succeed. my feeling is someone who is supposed to get that type of money should be able to do more with less. what i saw in the new orleans game, by far his worse game, was solid protection, decent pockets and terrible throws and some drops. that was three quarters of the game. in the fourth quarter, the wheels fell off they just pinned their ears back and bull rushed our line.

 

i would like to see him with another OC before we dedicate the fortress to him, which i do support by the way.

[B.BERSIN]

Cam is the next Peyton Manning.

lol

[Carolina Cajun]

There's no comparison, cam has thrown 5 interceptions all year and generally takes care of the ball, on the flip side, in the time it took for me to write this, Jay Cutler threw 3 interceptions.

[PantherDynasty]

You're right! Rivers has had 3 bad games in a row.

Last 3: 6 int's, 1 fumble lost and 3 losses.

Yeah Cam's numbers aren't pretty either but you act as if no QB has ever had a rough 3 game stretch.

Please educate yourself before calling others idiots.

Where did I say no other QB has had a bad three game stretch. Literally the only thing I'm saying is that Cam's bad stretch has been 3 games, not 1. Get your head out of your ass

[thefuzz]

David Carr?

What the fug is wrong with you people?

 

Shell shocked, not weak armed, bad decision maker.

 

 

 

He is worried about Cam taking too many hits, and never living up to his potential because of footsteps in the back of his head.

[Jangler]

The bigots/trolls far outnumbers the homers here, that much is clear.

 

and the white guilters that go out of their way to prove they aren't racist. lol

[Cary Kollins]

Shell shocked, not weak armed, bad decision maker.

 

 

 

He is worried about Cam taking too many hits, and never living up to his potential because of footsteps in the back of his head.

 

 

How many probowls has David Carr been to?

 

Cam has already proven he is a quarterback that can lead his team to a division crown and the playoffs.

 

 

I swear some people are just fugging slow.

[TheRed]

and the white guilters that go out of their way to prove they aren't racist. lol

 

It wouldn't be a thread without Jangler mentioning white guilt.

 

WHITE GUILT GUYS.

[Jangler]

just wondering when will it be okay to criticize Cam and not be called a bigot?

[Peppers90 NC]

How many probowls has David Carr been to?

 

Cam has already proven he is a quarterback that can lead his team to a division crown and the playoffs.

 

 

I swear some people are just fugging slow.

it retrospect, some could reasonably argue that the defense lead the team to the division crown and Cam was merely a game manager who made some crunch time plays. to say he lead the team last year is kinda generous. i'm not saying he wasnt/isnt a leader, but most people outside of this place would say we rode the defense's coat tails last year.

 

the fact you missed his point could mean you are just fugging slow.

[thefuzz]

How many probowls has David Carr been to?

 

Cam has already proven he is a quarterback that can lead his team to a division crown and the playoffs.

 

 

I swear some people are just fugging slow.

 

Not what he's saying, but I don't think that you are going to get what he is saying.

 

 

Many QB's, when they start racking up tons of hits start getting really jittery.  Scot was saying that he hopes that never happens to Cam, worth noting that Scot has been saying that for a while, and it has more to do with the way we use Cam than his skill set.

[TheRed]

it retrospect, some could reasonably argue that the defense lead the team to the division crown and Cam was merely a game manager who made some crunch time plays. to say he lead the team last year is kinda generous. i'm not saying he wasnt/isnt a leader, but most people outside of this place would say we rode the defense's coat tails last year.

 

the fact you missed his point could mean you are just fugging slow.

 

We had quite a few lucky bounces last year go our way that had not in previous years, that is a pretty big factor.

 

Game managers do not march their offense down the field for a score to take the lead late in the game as often as Newton did last year. Hell, Newton was doing that in 2011 and 2012 too, the defense just couldn't hold leads, which is what we're back to again this year.

 

We've had so many blowouts in such a short span because we have poured so many resources into our defense while hoping that UDFA's will protect our franchise quarterback, and it isn't working. To first assess whether Newton is the problem, we need to build around him. We haven't.