Cam needs to be more selfish, concentrate on the basics & play the cards he was dealt

[top dawg]

Dave Gettleman basically challenged Cam Newton when he said Cam has done this and that---everything except win.  Well, he showed that he can win last year.  If that's not good enough for Gettleman (and fans), then shame on them.  Cam needs to stop worrying and pressuring himself so much about the wins and losses, and make staying true to his mechanics and decision making his first priority.  Perhaps that will quell the questions about his ability to be our franchise QB, and put the onus more squarely where it should be: with Gettleman, the coaches and the rest of the FO.

 

Cam is probably never going to be the most accurate of QBs. But we have seen what he can do when he sets his feet.  Cam needs to put a premium on going through his reads, checking down, and throwing the ball away as opposed to forcing bad throws.  As opposed to trying to make the big play every time, he needs to throw to the open receiver.  If no receivers are open, or if the pocket has melted in front of him, that is a Gettleman problem.  

 

Cam needs to bring clarity to the situation by looking out for Cam, and not muddy the situation by forcing bad throws regardless if we win or not.  He needs to take what the defense is giving him to a fault.  if he needs to get down to the turf in a hurry to evade from being smashed, then that's what he should do.  Gettleman can't say that Cam should win on one hand, and provide a franchise QB with back-up level protection and receivers on the other hand---players who wouldn't start on probably any other team in the NFL.  It causes for imbalanced play, and quite naturally leads to imbalanced play by the franchise QB.  If Cam would not worry about the wins so much and concentrate on the basics, then perhaps more wins will come, but at the very least there would be less questions about his ability to lead the team to success, and put the spotlight on Dave Gettleman to provide the team with franchise level protection and receivers (and maybe even coaching).  

[WhoAmI?]

Don't fool yourself, the defense carried us last year. Cam showed he could come up clutch, but our defense carried us throughout the whole year. I do agree that Cam needs to be more selfish. If you want to throw to Olsen all game, do it, If you want to throw it to KB all game, do it. And don't tell me you can't throw it to oneor two people the majority of game because I see it all the time in the NFL. Let Olsen and KB get the majority of looks and catches and don't even bother with these other scrubs unless it is your 3rd or last read. That's the thing though, I don't think Cam is accurate enough to do that. That's what I feel Cam still doesn't do a good job of.... understanding the situation, whether it is field position, matchups, downs, and forcing it when there is no reason to.

[top dawg]

Don't fool yourself, the defense carried us last year. Cam showed he could come up clutch, but our defense carried us throughout the whole year. I do agree that Cam needs to be more selfish. If you want to throw to Olsen all game, do it, If you want to throw it to KB all game, do it. And don't tell me you can't throw it to oneor two people the majority of game because I see it all the time in the NFL. Let Olsen and KB get the majority of looks and catches and don't even bother with these other scrubs unless it is your 3rd or last read. That's the thing though, I don't think Cam is accurate enough to do that. Stop trying to spread it around. That's what I feel Cam still doesn't do a good job of.... understanding the situation, whether it is field position, matchups, downs, and forcing it when there is no reason to.

 

It still takes a team to win.

 

As good as our defense was, it wasn't '85 Bears or 2000 Ravens good, whereby just about any half-way good game manager could be put in and win. That, and the fact that our offensive play calling was glorified chicken poo still led to Cam having to be "clutch" for us to go on the streak.  And his play during then was top ten in the league, if not top five.

[TheRed]

Don't fool yourself, the defense carried us last year. Cam showed he could come up clutch, but our defense carried us throughout the whole year. I do agree that Cam needs to be more selfish. If you want to throw to Olsen all game, do it, If you want to throw it to KB all game, do it. And don't tell me you can't throw it to oneor two people the majority of game because I see it all the time in the NFL. Let Olsen and KB get the majority of looks and catches and don't even bother with these other scrubs unless it is your 3rd or last read. That's the thing though, I don't think Cam is accurate enough to do that. Stop trying to spread it around. That's what I feel Cam still doesn't do a good job of.... understanding the situation, whether it is field position, matchups, downs, and forcing it when there is no reason to.

 

Wasn't one of the main positives many claimed for getting rid of Steve Smith that Cam would be able to spread the ball around more?

 

Now we're going to criticize him for doing just that? What we need is a better gameplan to fit what suits our current personnel  best. Shorter routes, quicker throws. We do not have the speed at WR to have Newton standing in the pocket waiting on long developing routes all day.

[Lumps]

Cam could do wonders by just learning to throw the ball away.

[Cary Kollins]

There was one play in particular last week where Deangelo was wide open underneath and Cam forced the pass to a covered receiver down field. Williams could have picked up at least 8 or so yards on the play.

 

Hopefully those kinds of plays are harped on in film studies this week.

 

 

[WhoAmI?]

Wasn't one of the main positives many claimed for getting rid of Steve Smith that Cam would be able to spread the ball around more?

 

Now we're going to criticize him for doing just that? What we need is a better gameplan to fit what suits our current personnel  best. Shorter routes, quicker throws. We do not have the speed at WR to have Newton standing in the pocket waiting on long developing routes all day.

 

Who is criticizing him for doing that? That has been one of my biggest praises for him. But at some point, he should make it a priority to get your best players involved a lot often. And I agree with you. I cannot understand why we have not gone hurry up more, implement a quick hitting oiffense with more underneath routes and slants, etc. so we can limit the hits he takes. Like I said in another thread, this is the most stubborn coaching staff and sticks to their philosophies no matter the circumstances.

[Peppers90 NC]

There was one play in particular last week where Deangelo was wide open underneath and Cam forced the pass to a covered receiver down field. Williams could have picked up at least 8 or so yards on the play.

 

Hopefully those kinds of plays are harped on in film studies this week.

decision-making has probably hampered his growth more so than erratic throws.

[TheRed]

Who is criticizing him for doing that? That has been one of my biggest praises for him. But at some point, he should make it a priority to get your best players involved a lot often. And I agree with you. I cannot understand why we have not gone hurry up more, implement a quick hitting oiffense with more underneath routes and slants, etc. so we can limit the hits he takes. Like I said in another thread, this is the most stubborn coaching staff and sticks to their philosophies no matter the circumstances.

Sorry, maybe I read your post too quickly then.

I agree with much of what you said.

However, I don't think KB is ready to be the main guy yet, he's got huge potential, but he's still a rookie. Right now we absolutely have to get Olsen back involved in our passing game. At times last year our offense was absolutely killing defenses on those quick throws to Greg. Cam and him obviously have the best chemistry together, and it helps get Newton into a rhythm early, which we desperately need.

Also before I forget, Rivera needs to immediately ditch this bullshit with deferring when we win the coin toss, especially on the road. Give our offense the ball first, we need to start setting the tone early, we obviously do not have the same defense as last year. I could keep going on about some of his other decisions but we all see them. He needs to stop coaching not to lose, or nothing else will matter.

[WhoAmI?]

Sorry, maybe I read your post too quickly then.

I agree with much of what you said.

However, I don't think KB is ready to be the main guy yet, he's got huge potential, but he's still a rookie. Right now we absolutely have to get Olsen back involved in our passing game. At times last year our offense was absolutely killing defenses on those quick throws to Greg. Cam and him obviously have the best chemistry together, and it helps get Newton into a rhythm early, which we desperately need.

Also before I forget, Rivera needs to immediately ditch this bullshit with deferring when we win the coin toss, especially on the road. Give our offense the ball first, we need to start setting the tone early, we obviously do not have the same defense as last year. I could keep going on about some of his other decisions but we all see them. He needs to stop coaching not to lose, or nothing else will matter.

 

Sorry. I did have in my post for Cam to stop spreading the ball around. I didn't mean it like that. It's hard to write down exactly what I'm trying to get at.

 

And I agree. We have seen what this team can do when he coaches to win (Riverboat Ron). We turned our season around in large part because of that mindset. However, I feared (and it seems like it is starting to be true) that he would go back to his conservative ways once he got an extension, and that’s exactly what happened. That's my main gripe about these coaches. They are still game planning like we still have last year's defense and this is certainly not the case. The lack of adjustments from this coaching staff has been apparent since they started, and they still lack it. 4 seasons is enough time to get your personnel and implement a system and it is just not working. 1 winning season out of 4 is horrible and I think it is time for a new coaching staff.

[CRA]

I think Cam is worried about being murdered in the pocket....effects his mechanics. Don't blame him. As the line gets worse each week.....his mechanics do.

OL issue IMO.

[Ezrider1423]

There was one play in particular last week where Deangelo was wide open underneath and Cam forced the pass to a covered receiver down field. Williams could have picked up at least 8 or so yards on the play.

Hopefully those kinds of plays are harped on in film studies this week.

Cam used to check the ball down really well. Haven't seen that this year.