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The Steelers have the blueprint on how to utilize Cam

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Truth of the matter is when a team is winning, all of a sudden everyone thinks they know how to draft. Just like last year everyone was all over SEA's CBs.

No one was talking about Steeler's WR corps last season, not on here at least. There are very few WRs that will make any QB look good, for the most part, you need a good QB to make an average WR look like a very good one and that is why I cited Sanders never having a 100yd game until he got to DEN.

You also maybe unintentionally are showing what scouting can do since Denver went after Sanders.I think Sanders was picked both as insurance for Welker and matching up better vs Seattle.
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Todd Haley is on par with Shula. Issue is Haley has an offense that features complete talent....Shula doesn't have an OL, dated RBs, zero speed. Talent makes it easy on a D....Steelers can stress a D

 

He still brought KC out of the NFL basement within two seasons.  He didn't make it through that third season there but I don't get the bad rep he receives.  KC had a brand new FO when he was hired and I thought did well given the circumstances.      

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Difference between Ben/Cam= Ben has a serviceable o-line and above average receivers, Cam has NO o-line and receivers that wouldn't start at the local nursing home...

there were a few years where Ben had an atrocious oline ... his critics those days however said it was just a case of him holding on to the ball too long. Either way, I'm a firm beleiver that if you have 5-7 seconds back there, you gotta make a play.

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there were a few years where Ben had an atrocious oline ... his critics those days however said it was just a case of him holding on to the ball too long. Either way, I'm a firm beleiver that if you have 5-7 seconds back there, you gotta make a play.

i think you get 4 secs max in the pocket.

 

once over 4 secs you HAVE to be out of the pocket. the game speed and routes are designed to fit snugly in a 4 sec window from the pocket. this is why i keep banging the roll out from the pocket drum.

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Difference between Ben/Cam= Ben has a serviceable o-line and above average receivers, Cam has NO o-line and receivers that wouldn't start at the local nursing home...

 

The biggest difference is Ben's ability to look off defenders and use super human pump fakes.  When Ben's faces interior pressure he can still complete passes.   Not sure when the last time I've seen Cam use a pump fake was.

 

2 Superbowl Rings is also a big difference.  If Cam could bring us 2 rings he'd get a free pass to suck the rest of his career if he wanted to.

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He didn't say we should let Cam walk but u can't ignore Cams high passes. God, huddles are so reluctant to admit it.

 

you put a horrific OL in front of Payton Manning.....watch how his mechanics and accuracy alter.

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