Can We Discuss Goodson Fumble Please

[beastson]

The hand isnt a part of the body, but the forearm is

So if the back of the hand touch the ground, its a fumble. But a lil higher on the forearm it isnt

Do they sit and actually think about these rules. Zod I hope this doesnt happen in a crucial game this season and it stays like that

[Jase]

What happened to the ground not being able to cause a fumble?

Guess it can.

I thought if the wrist was down, then you're down. And the wrist did touch.

[outlaw4]

Take this for what it's worth

http://trainathought.insidefootball.com/2009/08/observations-from-the-ref.html

As for the challenge by Coach Coughlin, a player in possession of the ball is considered to be down when any part of his body other than his hands or feet touch the ground. As the only part of the Carolina runner that touched the ground was his hand, he was considered still “up” and therefore he fumbled a live ball. This is the one exception to the rule that the “ground can not cause a fumble.”

[beastson]

Ridiculous

[Phil Dees]

So let’s take a hypothetical … DeAngelo takes a handoff from Jake and sprints around right end. The LB comes up and hits him low, knocking him off balance. DW manages to get his left hand down to regain his balance and takes 82 yards for an apparent TD.

Who's going to stand up yelling at the top of their lungs “BRING IT BACK, HIS HAND WAS DOWN !!!” ?

There are some fans who still don’t understand the rule on Smitty’s non-catch from the Dallas game a couple years ago even though, I believe it was Mike Carey, so eloquently explained the review.

[hank pimple butt]

i always thought it was, a elbow or knee and your down. it was a good call imo.

[outlaw4]

Ridiculous

And yet, there it is.

Be glad this didn't happen to us during a regular season game.

Then again, we're facing the Cowboys this season and for whatever reason, there is always crap calls like that (not calling pass interference, roughing the kicker, complete pass that wasn't a pass).

[beastson]

The "exception" is what I find ridiculous

I understand your feet because your feet is already on the ground, but your hand isnt. To say the forearm isnt a exception but the wrist is, thats ridiculous

[hdevonxz]

lol this is so dumb. How many times do you we see this happens as a player dives into the endzone for a catch?

[frash.exe]

So let’s take a hypothetical … DeAngelo takes a handoff from Jake and sprints around right end. The LB comes up and hits him low, knocking him off balance. DW manages to get his left hand down to regain his balance and takes 82 yards for an apparent TD.

Who's going to stand up yelling at the top of their lungs “BRING IT BACK, HIS HAND WAS DOWN !!!” ?

There are some fans who still don’t understand the rule on Smitty’s non-catch from the Dallas game a couple years ago even though, I believe it was Mike Carey, so eloquently explained the review.

Smith's 74-yard td against the texans in 07 is a good example of a play along the lines of what you are describing.

[Darth Biscuit]

I have no problem with the call as it was made. The back of his hand, maybe the wrist hit the ground and nothing else was touching the ground except his foot. It was a fumble... maybe he'll learn to hold the ball close to his body and just fall, then if his shoulder hits first and the ball comes out, he's down.

[Phil Dees]

I have no problem with the call as it was made. The back of his hand, maybe the wrist hit the ground and nothing else was touching the ground except his foot. It was a fumble... maybe he'll learn to hold the ball close to his body and just fall, then if his shoulder hits first and the ball comes out, he's down.

Not necessarily (as I previously re: the Smitty play). A receiver has to maintain possession of the ball throughout the play.

The middle of the field is no different than the sideline where a receiver must have clear and firm possession of the ball before going out of bounds.

[beastson]

True he'll learn that, I just dont think its right to pick and choose body parts to say whats exception or not

If it wasnt by contact like his 2nd fumble, then it shouldn't be a fumble. They should change it. But hey what can I do

[Kyle82]

That was a ticky-tak call....the refs are in preseason as well. :yesnod: