Understanding Cam's situation

[CRA]

you damn well know this 2014 defense is vastly better than 2011. We've had weird games of absurdness and games of dominance.

the mean remains the same. we are much better defensively with our pieces.

like we both agreed the offense helps the defense and the defense the offense. We haven't been a complete team in games many times this year. one has always hurt the other. and put one or the other in awful situations.

No. I don't know it is better.

People let 2013 influence what they think we are now.

results are all that matters. This years team without looking I am sure gives up bigger plays at a higher rate..,.so what is signicantly better? From a results standpoint.

I bet this years team has had to defend less drives too

[TheMaulClaw]

we're not talking about matt ryan.

 

and yes i think they would.

 

you start from scratch and these types of qbs (ryan included) do not grow on trees.

 

the human population is so vast yet you only have a handful of humans that can do the things that these guys can do. And that is why you give them the big bucks. they can win you superbowls with proper drafting around them. And i don't just mean skill positions on O. I mean great drafting for the entire team.

 

 

Fair assessment.

 

Like I've said....I have no problem with resigning Cam.  I only have a problem with giving him the richest contract in NFL history.

 

Many point out that our WR's and OL suck, and suck they do.  

 

That's why personally I think we have to get those things in order before anything  else.  If we have enough left to sign Cam back fine. 

 

If Cam could truly transcend those deficiencies with his play on a championship level then he would be worth it.  Like most QBs, he can't without help.  So why resign the guy to a mega deal if we can't get him the support.  We all agree that he needs support.  We just disagree on the philosophies to get there.

[WOW!!]

Well someone should teach cam how to throw the ball away he sure is hell isn't doing it. Every other drive we face a 2nd or 3rd and a hundred yards to go. It's a drive killer everyime.

I think Cam presses to much I agree. But if you want a C lausen type QB again then you must smoke crack a lot.

[PandaPancake]

I think Cam presses to much I agree. But if you want a C lausen type QB again then you must smoke crack a lot.

How about Pickles and T3bow combination?

[WOW!!]

Do you think if Atlanta had to do it over again....would they give Matt Ryan the same deal?

Yes because a Franchise QB is a needed position. And the teams that don't have them. Don't win.

[WOW!!]

How about Pickles and T3bow combination?

I'd rather have a retired Jake.

[TheMaulClaw]

Yes because a Franchise QB is a needed position. And the teams that don't have them. Don't win.

 

 

Who's AZ's franchise qb?  Who was our franchise qb when we went to the SB?  DId Peyton Manning win the SB last year?

 

You're a tool.  Go f yourself.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Once a fuggin gain when cam plays lights out we still fall short so guys bitchin about cam playing bad how about look at the games where he plays good???

Jeez us it's like people ignore the fact that our o line is straight trash.... When cam holds the ball it's most likely because our rb and te are in blocking and there's three guys running routes....we have very limited talent on the offense period

[PandaPancake]

Cam has given us some amazing last minute drives to win the game. I stand by my expert opinion, I play a 20 minute game of Madden a week, our line is bad and that ball needs to be doing is best The Flash impression not waiting for long routes to develop

[TheRumGone]

No. I don't know it is better.

People let 2013 influence what they think we are now.

results are all that matters. This years team without looking I am sure gives up bigger plays at a higher rate..,.so what is signicantly better? From a results standpoint.

I bet this years team has had to defend less drives too

 

no i don't.

 

what i know is we are stronger at key positions. the hardy loss fuging up months of preparation.

 

 

but when talking about deangelo YPA don't matter right?

[WOW!!]

Who's AZ's franchise qb? Who was our franchise qb when we went to the SB? DId Peyton Manning win the SB last year?

You're a tool. Go f yourself.

Carson Palmer ever heard of him??

Number 1 overall draft pick plus Bruce Arrians a offensive genius HC.

Oh and the Super bowl was one by Russell Wilson who most people think is a Franchise QB.

So who is the tool again???

[TheMaulClaw]

Carson Palmer ever heard of him??

Number 1 overall draft pick plus Bruce Arrians a offensive genius HC.

Oh and the Super bowl was one by Russell Wilson who most people think is a Franchise QB.

So who is the tool again???

 

Carson Palmer is a proven veteran QB who's making no where near what Cam is wanting not a franchise qb.  They've had several starting qbs this year....that's my point.  We could win with a proven vet. 

 

Russel Wilson barely beat us and we suck.  He won last year because he had a great team around him.

 

And you're the tool again.

 

[philp]

I think Cam presses to much I agree. But if you want a C lausen type QB again then you must smoke crack a lot.

Good thing I don't want another pickles then.

[TheMaulClaw]

Good thing I don't want another pickles then.

 

No one wants Pickles.  It's just amazing that he sucked so bad and got sacked less then Cam.