Doubt inside BofA Cam is the future?

[SCP]

I definitely don't want to run him out....but I'm so scared to pay him. All these QB signings are ludicrous, I wish we could've gotten Kelly. Cam is a Ferrari that is driven like a pt cruiser, so we have no idea how fast he is capable of going.

Not even a good PT Cruiser, the kind with fake wood

[CharlottePanther]

I doubt Cam also, he just isnt a $100 million QB period, not even close. Whatever happened to QBs getting elite pay for actually being elite and not overrated, streaky game managers?!

Let Cam walk, draft a new QB in the 2nd round and use the money to fix the oline and offense in general. Cam is just too inconsistent. People point at his stats; things like "Cam is the 1st QB to rush for this many yds while passing for this many TDs etc." Cam isnt the running threat he once was and it will get worse. People think Cam is a franchise QB because of the monster, unsustainable rushing stats he put up his first few seasons.

At best Cam is a $50 million, $25 million guarantee type of QB, paying him anywhere close to $100 mill or more would set this franchise back for years.

[Ezrider1423]

I doubt Cam also, he just isnt a $100 million QB period, not even close. Whatever happened to QBs getting elite pay for actually being elite and not overrated, streaky game managers?!

Let Cam walk, draft a new QB in the 2nd round and use the money to fix the oline and offense in general. Cam is just too inconsistent. People point at his stats; things like "Cam is the 1st QB to rush for this many yds while passing for this many TDs etc." Cam isnt the running threat he once was and it will get worse. People think Cam is a franchise QB because of the monster, unsustainable rushing stats he put up his first few seasons.

At best Cam is a $50 million, $25 million guarantee type of QB, paying him anywhere close to $100 mill or more would set this franchise back for years.

You have ABSOLUTELY no idea what in the fug you're talking about.

[Kevin Greene]

I doubt Cam also, he just isnt a $100 million QB period, not even close. Whatever happened to QBs getting elite pay for actually being elite and not overrated, streaky game managers?!

Let Cam walk, draft a new QB in the 2nd round and use the money to fix the oline and offense in general. Cam is just too inconsistent. People point at his stats; things like "Cam is the 1st QB to rush for this many yds while passing for this many TDs etc." Cam isnt the running threat he once was and it will get worse. People think Cam is a franchise QB because of the monster, unsustainable rushing stats he put up his first few seasons.

At best Cam is a $50 million, $25 million guarantee type of QB, paying him anywhere close to $100 mill or more would set this franchise back for years.

 

 

Ugghh, us Panther fans should count our blessing s in so many ways Cam is our QB. We were the first to enjoy a #1 pick under the Rookie salary cap era.

You could have been watching Sam Bradford at 78 million, 50 million guaranteed the last few years.

[Mr. Scot]

Hey look, Rozinski's name is all over the place again

I'm sure that's got nothing to so with it

[WOW!!]

I doubt Cam also, he just isnt a $100 million QB period, not even close. Whatever happened to QBs getting elite pay for actually being elite and not overrated, streaky game managers?!

Let Cam walk, draft a new QB in the 2nd round and use the money to fix the oline and offense in general. Cam is just too inconsistent. People point at his stats; things like "Cam is the 1st QB to rush for this many yds while passing for this many TDs etc." Cam isnt the running threat he once was and it will get worse. People think Cam is a franchise QB because of the monster, unsustainable rushing stats he put up his first few seasons.

At best Cam is a $50 million, $25 million guarantee type of QB, paying him anywhere close to $100 mill or more would set this franchise back for years.

C lausen was a 2nd round QB. You people act like getting a QB is easy.

Genius how many Franchise QB have we drafted in 20 years.

[PandaPancake]

Anyone mentioned Favre yet?

[CelibatePimp]

There are things that worried me about Cam going into the season. Rivera said his injury allowed him to be more involved in the offensive installation etc. I was like why should that be something that he should be doing? Brain vs braun Cam. As I've said numerous times, this is year 4, its up to Cam to decide if he wants to be a passer or a runner.

 

Anyways, getting a QB in this league is not easy. You can't let Cam go hoping for someone like Luck to come around. I say keep him with the fifth year option then tag him after. If he is able to return to his first three game form, then extend him after that otherwise we might sink so much money in him and it will come back to bite us ala all those big Hurney contracts.

[WOW!!]

There are things that worried me about Cam going into the season. Rivera said his injury allowed him to be more involved in the offensive installation etc. I was like why should that be something that he should be doing? Brain vs braun Cam. As I've said numerous times, this is year 4, its up to Cam to decide if he wants to be a passer or a runner.

Anyways, getting a QB in this league is not easy. You can't let Cam go hoping for someone like Luck to come around. I say keep him with the fifth year option then tag him after. If he is able to return to his first three game form, then extend him after that otherwise we might sink so much money in him and it will come back to bite us ala all those big Hurney contracts.

Does our Oline allows him to make that choice??

[CelibatePimp]

Anyone mentioned Favre yet?

 

You may be on to something here. Brett Favre's numbers are not exactly spectacular and very inconsistent. I see Cam now as the new Jay Cutler. Frustrating to watch at times.

[CelibatePimp]

Does our Oline allows him to make that choice??

 

Oline's have been scapegoats for QBs for a long time. In CHI, oline was the big thing before Trestman got there, what happened after they fixed it? Same old Jay. Atlanta has a bad oline last season and this season, Ryan's numbers are not as bad as Cam's. 

 

Believe me, it's possible to isolate bad QB play from bad oline play.

[CharlottePanther]

You have ABSOLUTELY no idea what in the fug you're talking about.

The love Cam gets on here is quite ridicoulous.. What has he done?! One winning season and a playoff loss.. Not only that but he just isnt that great, hes average at best, not a world beater that deserves hundred million. If we sign Cam to a big contract we wont have money to fix our real issues.

He has bad footwork, questionable decision making skills and a terrible deep ball, not to mention his refusal to throw ball aways and take is out of FG range.

I would be perfectly fine letting Cam walk, fix the O line and get more respectable WR and just roll with DA behind a upgraded O line and upgrade WR corps and who knows, if Hardy is found not guilty we can just re sign him and make our D elite again.

[klumme]

Let Cam walk, draft a new QB in the 2nd round and use the money to fix the oline and offense in general. Cam is just too inconsistent. People point at his stats; things like "Cam is the 1st QB to rush for this many yds while passing for this many TDs etc." Cam isnt the running threat he once was and it will get worse. People think Cam is a franchise QB because of the monster, unsustainable rushing stats he put up his first few seasons.

 

Why not wait until the 7th round and draft a QB. Then we can pick up HoF players in the first 6 rounds, you know since finding a good QB is so easy...

 

Setting us back years... WTF? We have not won a PO game in over 10 years. We are pathetic and the only thing coming close to giving this sorry ass franchise a spark is Cam Newton. NEVER in our entire lifetime did we have a QB that could fire up the area, the fans, media etc. And you want to draft a bum in the 2nd round? 

 

It took 20 years of coming close to finding a franchise QB and now you would throw him out. Why no fuging try to invest in your QB? Give him an O-line, some weapons, a NFL coach and a great OC. Go all in now since we are so close and take a chance on Cam. This is such a gutless franchise, frankly we do not deserve success .

 

First three years

 

QB A

13329 yds ( 277 pr game )

84 TD ( 1.75 pr game )

Completion % 60 

 

QB B

13128 yds ( 285 pr game )

71 TD (1.5 pr game )

Completion 62 %

 

One of these QBs is one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game, the other is the QB you want to throw away and draft a 2nd round QB.

 

STOP!!

[WOW!!]

Oline's have been scapegoats for QBs for a long time. In CHI, oline was the big thing before Trestman got there, what happened after they fixed it? Same old Jay. Atlanta has a bad oline last season and this season, Ryan's numbers are not as bad as Cam's.

Believe me, it's possible to isolate bad QB play from bad oline play.

Let's break down the situation. ..

Cam Bad Oline and 2 above average weapons. Then Mike Shula at OC.....

RYan Bad Oline but has Julio jones, Roddy White, Harry Douglas, Devin Hester and Steve Jackson. He also had the Goat at TE last year. Bad Oline but a Bevy of weapons and his numbers this year aren't great.

Cutler Bad Oline but more weapons then the US military. I'd take Trestman over Shula any day.

So by comparison at least the other guys with bad O lines have weapons out of the yeng-yang.