Peyton needed 5 years and a new coach to start winning, so will Cam.

[CamMoon]

Dungy's second year in Indy Peyton won his first MVP, and the Colts started becoming serious threats to win the Super Bowl every year. Peyton Manning, a guy considered to be the first QB of all time by some needed 5 years and a head coaching change. It shouldn't be change for change sake though. I've said for the last 4 years that we'll never go anywhere with Ron Rivera in charge here. He is a great guy, but when he isn't fighting for his job the decision making is subpar. Rivera and his staff are wasting one of the most physically gifted QBs to ever step foot on an NFL field. DG has to hit on the next coach and we have to invest in Cam by getting an offensive line that isn't dog poo.

 

Bottom line, a couple bad games from Cam doesn't mean gloom and doom. Most reasonable people know what we have in him, and if it takes another 7 games of this nonsense, then so be it.

[SgtJoo]

The thread so nice he started it thrice

[Car123]

Correct

[CamMoon]

The thread so nice he started it thrice

I'm legally blind so how Imma make 3 threads

[AceBoogie]

I agree but it takes a front office fully committed to building around your QB. I don't believe Gettleman is.

[teeray]

Patience. All I can say. These things take time and we were left with a worse than usual situation.

[cbully]

don't forget that military oline who wouldn't dare screw up on Peyton and those 2 high quality WRs Harrison/Wayne... we have have 1/3 of that line and only the #2 WR which is Benji... 

 

 

how about every keep it in line because he really is a #2. obviously he's the "RR/Panthers/Huddle #1" but his overall play is a #2. Not dumping on his skill  whatsoever but you know deep down its the truth... he's good but has quite more to go.

 

The biggest issue is RR and the funky bunch!

[pstall]

Polian picked a bunch of good guys for the Colts.

But don't think Peyton didn't make some wrs or tes better.

[Kevin Greene]

Peyton needed 5 years and a new coach to start winning, so will Cam.

 

 

I say 100% Horse Shyt.

 

Joe Flacco has won from day one.

 

5 Playoff appearances in 5 years.

Including a Super Bowl win.

 

 

The difference we're talking about here is Coaching and Management.

 

You have 2 of the best in GM Ozzie Newsome and HC John Harbaugh

 

This is about the organization, not the QB, Cam has plenty of talent. This organization has done nothing but hinder his success.

[carolina-chuck]

Don't compare Peyton to Cam.

However, Cam does need better coaches.

[CelibatePimp]

A new coach will not automatically make Cam better. Jay Cutler got a new coach, Blaine Gabbert was supposed to be better under Harbaugh, Josh Freeman went to Minnesota etc.

 

Last season Shula brought out the cans cos of Cam's lack of accuracy on the deep ball. I think they may have forgotten about him this season because they thought QB was the least of the problems with this team. These past few days have shown that Cam needs constant coaching and is not there yet.

 

[Pejorative Miscreant]

A new coach will not automatically make Cam better. Jay Cutler got a new coach, Blaine Gabbert was supposed to be better under Harbaugh, Josh Freeman went to Minnesota etc.

 

Last season Shula brought out the cans cos of Cam's lack of accuracy on the deep ball. I think they may have forgotten about him this season because they thought QB was the least of the problems with this team. These past few days have shown that Cam needs constant coaching and is not there yet.

 

I agree with a lot of this but I do think that some of Cam's issues are related to confidence in the line.  If a QB is not confident and comfortable when he drops back he is going to make some mistakes and in Cam's case, go back to the high balls, sailing, etc....

 

I don't have specific statistics but I do think that he is doing this a bit more this year vs. last year.  Don't get me wrong, Cam has some growth opportunities and there are several flaws in his game but he is under a lot more duress than many of his peers. 

 

[WOW!!]

Show the statistics of weapons added to all the young QB'S other then Cam.