Jamie Dukes gets it

[Mr. Scot]

I didn't hear any racism implication but I have to agree on the LT

Anyone with any sense knew the current situation was not going to work

And if Gettleman didn't think gross would retire, hard to believe

Very sad that I believe the Panthers were close. They aren't close

Gettleman tried to talk Gross out of retiring.

As to the draft, all the top tackles were gone by Round Two. Ealy was the BAP and has actually flashed some potential. By contrast, Morgan Moses looks like garbage.

[ThinkAboutIt]

Gettleman tried to talk Gross out of retiring.

As to the draft, all the top tackles were gone by Round Two. Ealy was the BAP and has actually flashed some potential. By contrast, Morgan Moses looks like garbage.

 

Gross retired long before the draft so the fact that he tried to talk Gross out of it is IRRELEVANT.

 

Are you suggesting that only the top tackles were better than Chandler and Bell, two guys who weren't drafted at all? 

 

Do you work for the Panthers? "Best available" only gets you so far when you have gaping holes at Tackle. 

[mcdougal]

Anybody with any sense knows that the notion of an NFL GM deliberately sabotaging his own quarterback is too goofy for words.

 

Who said that? Jamie called it GM "malpractice." 

 

Malpractice is a legal term that generally implies negligence. Negligence does not equal intentional acts. 

 

A lawyer who fails to meet discovery deadlines on behalf of his client may commit malpractice regardless of intent. A surgeon who leaves sponges in his patient's cavity may commit malpractice regardless of whether he intended to cause an offensive bodily contact.

 

So no one is saying that David Gettleman intended to sabotage anybody.

 

 

And my position is that Gettleman is entitled to build this team however he desired. However, if it failed, he deserves to get the ax. Gettleman can ignore the offense for the next 100 years and build up the defense at the expense of the offense.

 

However, he should be fired if the defense failed to lead the way, and the Panthers failed to win/progress.

[*FreeFua*]

BPA was Allen Robinson. Ealy is just another example of this franchise choosing to address the defense instead of surrounding Cam with weapons.

[Mr. Scot]

Gross retired long before the draft so the fact that he tried to talk Gross out of it is IRRELEVANT.

 

Are you suggesting that only the top tackles were better than Chandler and Bell, two guys who weren't drafted at all? 

 

I'm saying the tackles left weren't good enough for a second round pick.  Kony Ealy was.

 

[ThinkAboutIt]

BPA was Allen Robinson. Ealy is just another example of this franchise choosing to address the defense instead of surrounding Cam with weapons.

 

Fug, Cam.

 

Your friend,

Dave

[Mr. Scot]

So no one is saying that David Gettleman intended to do sabotage anybody.

 

Haven't read the OP?

[Mr. Scot]

BPA was Allen Robinson. Ealy is just another example of this franchise choosing to address the defense instead of surrounding Cam with weapons.

 

Robinson didn't have a first round grade on him.  Ealy did.

 

As to surrounding Cam with weapons, you do remember who we used out first round pick on, right?

[*FreeFua*]

Robinson didn't have a first round grade on him. Ealy did.

Not by everyone

[*FreeFua*]

Robinson didn't have a first round grade on him. Ealy did.

As to surrounding Cam with weapons, you do remember who we used out first round pick on, right?

How could I forget, it was the first one since he's been here

[beastson]

 

accused him of setting Cam up to fail or get injured so he won't have to worry about paying a guy he doesn't actually consider to be a franchise QB to begin with. If he had Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck, he would've addressed the line.

 

[CatMan72]

Don't just assume he's seen the light when he reaffirms your opinion

Confirmation bias.

[ThinkAboutIt]

Who said that? Jamie called it GM "malpractice." 

 

Malpractice is a legal term that generally implies negligence. Negligence does not equal intentional acts.

 

Yes, I know what malpractice means. It's no different than a surgeon removing someone's right arm when the left one was supposed to be amputated. The left one still needs to be amputated, so now the person has neither, but they join the ranks of the "millionaire" class due to the doctor's mistake, not that they can enjoy the money much with no arms. 

 

Either way, I'm the one who said it's intentional. Just like not feeding a dog tied up behind your house. Not giving your so-called "franchise QB" an offensive line shows that you don't really consider him to be the franchise, and most of the people disagreeing with what I'm saying would be saying the same thing if Luck was here and going out there with a line like this.

 

Of course he wouldn't be. That "franchise" would be protected come hell or high-water. 

[Mr. Scot]

How could I forget, it was the first one since he's been here

 

Kugbila and Barner in the 2013 draft.  Benjamin, Turner and Gaffney in this year's.

 

Of the eleven draft picks made under Gettleman, six have been defensive, five offensive, almost an even split.

 

You want to be angry at Gettleman?  Fine, but at least use an argument that has some weight.  This one isn't supported by the facts.